LDS Objections: Founder Effect

  • All males descended from Lehi and all females descended from Ishmael

  • Requires Permanent structural alterations in DNA, consisting of either substitutions, insertions or deletions of nucleotide bases.mutations of at least:

    • 6 Y-chromosome A common variation in the sequence of DNA among individuals of a species or race.polymorphisms

    • 4 Genetic material found in mitochondria, the organelles that generate energy for the cell.mtDNA haplotypes

    • 5 polymorphic Alu Chromosomal abnormalities in which a DNA sequences are inserted into genes, disrupting the normal structure and function of those genes.insertions

    • Helicobacter pylori

    • Canine Genetic material found in mitochondria, the organelles that generate energy for the cell.mtDNA haplotypes

  • All Permanent structural alterations in DNA, consisting of either substitutions, insertions or deletions of nucleotide bases.mutations must occur simultaneously and must result in Asian haplotypes

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How could founder effect and genetic drift account for the data from these genetics studies? In the Book of Mormon, all the male founders of the Nephites and Lamanites were descended from one man, Lehi. If Lehi harbored some kind of skewed genetics, it would be reflected in his sons and their offspring. This could explain some of the Y-chromosome data, which is passed on only through the male line. However, since there are many different Y-chromosome haplotypes found at many Multiple places on a chromosome where specific genes or genetic markers are located, a kind of address for the gene.loci, it is virtually impossible that all of those Multiple places on a chromosome where specific genes or genetic markers are located, a kind of address for the gene.loci would be mutated in any one individual. It gets much worse for the Mormon apologist. Lehi’s genetics could not explain the Genetic material found in mitochondria, the organelles that generate energy for the cell.mtDNA genetics, since these Functional and physical units of heredity passed from parent to offspring. Genes are pieces of DNA, and most genes contain the information for making a specific protein.genes are passed on only though the female line. The wives of Lehi’s sons were also from one family line - Ishmael. Since there are four main Native American specific Genetic material found in mitochondria, the organelles that generate energy for the cell.mtDNA haplotypes, one would have to hypothesize that all of these haplotypes were developed in the wives of Lehi’s sons or their immediate daughters and that those haplotypes just happed to match those of East Asians. A third genetic technique examined the polymorphic Alu Chromosomal abnormalities in which a DNA sequences are inserted into genes, disrupting the normal structure and function of those genes.insertions found in the Referring to any chromosome other than a sex chromosome. Humans have 22 pairs of autosomes and 1 pair of sex chromosomes.autosomal (non-X or Y) Threadlike "packages" of genes and other DNA in the nucleus of a cell. Different kinds of organisms have different numbers of chromosomes. Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes, 46 in all: 44 autosomes and two sex chromosomes. Each parent contributes one chromosome to each pair, so children get half of their chromosomes from their mothers and half from their fathers.chromosomes. With results similar to the two other genetic techniques, the founder effect would require the additional simultaneous A permanent structural alteration in DNA, consisting of either a substitution, insertion or deletion of nucleotide bases.mutationof at least 5 polymorphic Alu Chromosomal abnormalities in which a DNA sequences are inserted into genes, disrupting the normal structure and function of those genes.insertions in Lehi’s sons and son’s wives - not likely!

Not only do Mormon apologists have to deal with human genetics, they also have to explain the genetics of certain intestinal bacteria and domesticated dogs. In order for Native Americans to have been founded by Israelites, the Helicobacter pylori in their gut would have had to mutate to match that of the Asian variety. In addition, the dogs they took over to the Americas would have had to mutate to an Asian type genetics. All of these five extremely improbable, multiple A permanent structural alteration in DNA, consisting of either a substitution, insertion or deletion of nucleotide bases.mutation effects would have had to have happened within one or two generations in the same small populations. The idea is scientifically ludicrous.

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