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by authentic
Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:13 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Is being Gay really that bad?
Replies: 184
Views: 49621

Sin is going against what God desires for us. It is that which is not part of God's character of holiness and righteousness. Therefore it is God who defines sin, not ourselves . Everyone may have a different idea of what constitutes sin, but none of us has the sovereignty required to define what th...
by authentic
Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:32 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: What do you know about this?
Replies: 16
Views: 4521

this is further confirmation that the 'Word of Faith' doctrine's agenda is to make man a God. Anytime you tell people that they can "speak things into existance" and that we can actually tell God what we want-we would have to demote Jesus (who is God himself) to just a simple man like ours...
by authentic
Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:06 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The God of the Bible is not God of other religions!
Replies: 10
Views: 3644

The other religions don't know the true God because they don't recognize Christ as God himself. They share a common belief that God exist and that he is all knowing, all seeing, with out beginning and without ending, creator of all things good and evil. Yet, when you don't accept Christ as God then ...
by authentic
Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:37 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

I did, though, notice that you feel it is more important to give to the poor. Might I ask where you get that? I don't mind giving to them, of course, and I do. But, I do believe that giving to the local church holds a higher priority, so I'd like to see where you are basing that idea. Thanks Sorry,...
by authentic
Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:14 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

I am suggesting a standard via observation, as you well put it. For me, the principle which we are under is not the tithe in the technical sense, but the giving a portion of our first fruits , in whatever sense that may be. In our industrialized world, money is the common fruit of our labors. 10% s...
by authentic
Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:17 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

I have a question. Are you suggesting that any financial offering below 10% is unacceptable to God? Or are you making observations through scripture that would suggest that this would be a standard, since Abram volunarily did it and that it was once part of the law?
by authentic
Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:35 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

OK, authentic. I'm still following you, so I have a few more follow up thoughts and questions. You do a good job with introductory exegesis. I can't comment on your exposition of particular passages, as I've not seen any from you yet. But, you have what I believe to be the correct approach to 1) th...
by authentic
Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:19 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

Very good, the ol bait n switch. I thought you were looking for answers, but what you really wanted was to teach. Although I knew the answers in general your post forced me to research something I hadn't in many many years. Behold, something old has become new. Thank you! and God Bless! well, i don...
by authentic
Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:32 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

Let me ask you, though . . . in your mind, what is the place and purpose of OT Scripture? the place of OT scripture served as a shadow of the coming Christ, the OT was the prophecy and the NT was the fulfillment of the prophecy. Now you may think i'm trying to nullify the importance of the OT, i ce...
by authentic
Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:23 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

Fair enough, and I've read you saying that, and that's totally fine. You've obviously got a better than Sunday school level understanding on these things, which is more than we can say for most people. Let me ask you, though . . . in your mind, what is the place and purpose of OT Scripture? How, fo...
by authentic
Fri Feb 03, 2006 8:38 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

Authentic, I don't really understand your objections to this. Of course we don't tithe because the Mosaic Law commands it. We are not now under that Law. That was a conditional covenant given to the Jews for the purpose of preparing the way for the coming Messiah. It was fulfilled in Him. Now, I'm ...
by authentic
Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:41 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

OH yes before i forget, someone asked for some biblical evidence regarding the specifics on tithing and how it doesn't relate to this present "new age tithing" by the church. deuteromony 14: 22-29 22Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by ...
by authentic
Thu Feb 02, 2006 4:34 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

my problem with the tithe is not the issue of not wanting to give. I try to give as much as i can when ever the oppotunity presents itself, and the spirit moves me. The issue is that now that we live under the new covenent of grace, we no longer give by rules and regulations. But we give out of a si...
by authentic
Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:48 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

well i think we have found alittle common ground here, because i never attepted to say that we all should be financially poor, nor did i say that Jesus NEVER had money. But, the point i was making is that money can become an idol like anything else controls our life. Actually money is neither good o...
by authentic
Wed Feb 01, 2006 5:35 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Why are Christians still tithing
Replies: 39
Views: 11254

authentic, ok You've studied. So visit that link, read what it say's then you'll get the idea. btw, how did Jesus 'render unto ceasar'? ;) lol...this website (with all due respect, of course) sounds like that damnable "word of faith" doctrine.. in other words its blasphemy. The bible clea...