Evidence for God from Science

An interesting collection of statements, which illustrate well the different approaches that creationists and evolutionists take to the evidence - evidence, I may say, entirely discovered by evolutionists. The mantra “this supports creationism” is, I’m afraid, more or less meaningless. After all, ab...

There is a general point to be made here, which is that whenever a 'spontaneous creationist' spots a disagreement among evolutionists, that alone is assumed to be good evidence that evolution is a complete nonsense and thus creationism must be correct. They rarely look at themselves from a similar v...

Actually they did... four times (well three times in the Gospels and once in Acts). Yes, of course you're right. I must have been having a senior moment! It is usually assumed that soudarion is related to the Latin word sudor, and means specifically something for wiping your face with, while sindon...

All three Synoptic Gospels use the Greek word 'sindon' to refer to the linen cloth that Joseph of Arimathaea wrapped the body of Jesus in after he was crucified (Mat 27:59, Mk 15:46, Lk 23:53). So even though the Greek word sindon refers generically to a linen cloth. Within the context of the synop...

DBowling wrote:The Syriac 'sedona' comes from the Greek 'sindon'.

I know. And neither of them mean 'shroud'.

Just wondering Hugh, if your repair test comes back "invisible", why does that matter so much? Would it change your opinion? It just seems to me, nothing but an earlier date through re-dating the actual shroud would convince you it is in fact earlier. You may be right, but really it's all...

Did you have a look at the videos ... Yes indeed, but I did not find them convincing, so I downloaded pictures of three Justinian coins (from wildwinds.com) and one of the shroud and overlaid them, using an opacity slider to move between one and the other. (I use 'Pages' on a MacBook, but I'm sure ...

Hugh, the early disciples/apostles didn't just believe the resurrection was something: They specifically believed: Jesus was/IS God, who took on the cloak of humanity. They believed he died a horrible death on a cross. They believed He was able to come back from the dead, fully alive and healthy, a...

Well, it's a bit off topic, but related. I don't know what the resurrection was, but I do believe, as did the early disciples, that it was something. I think there is a distinction to be made here between knowledge and belief. What can't be denied is the consequences, but, rather like the big bang, ...

According to Christian tradition/legend, at around 50 AD the Mandylion was taken from Jerusalem to Edessa and given by the evangelist Thaddaeus to King Agbar V. So by the time Constantine was exploring the holy sites of Jerusalem, the Mandylion was buried in the walls of Edessa due to earlier perse...

Without a trace was even quoted as saying a reweave like the one they specialize in can not be detected by the naked eye on the front and back , this was known for a long time in shroud circles and Hugh himself has known it and could have emailed them a trillion years ago. Sadly I had genuinely mis...

Dead right. A supreme intelligence, coupled to omnipotence and the ability to create matter from nothing, would have no problem whatever in assembling whatever he wanted. The question is rarely "could he?" but "did he?"

This is all sensible and illustrates the discussion. My overall point is to show that although there have been sensible disagreements about the radiocarbon date, many of which need more clarification, it cannot be said that it has been comprehensively refuted. On the other hand, as Christopher Ramsa...

Quite a lot. 1) The plane of the solar system is not perpendicular to the orbit of the sun around the galaxy. 2) A few particles rotating in a spiral do not constitute a vortex. 3) Rotational motion and "vortex mortion" are not "completely different things; they are closely related. 4...

Now. Ray Rogers's principal claim in his Thermochimica Acta paper was that there was vanillin on the radiocarbon threads, but no vanillin on the rest of the Shroud, demonstrating that the radiocarbon corner was different from the rest of the Shroud. So far, so good. However, he was not able to compa...