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- Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:48 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
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Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
Kurieo, notice how hugh left the invisible reweaving claim by Joe Marino and without a trace . I find it amazing that Hugh made the claim that he never knew about this and the very company that was mentioned even though it was mentioned more then once on the shroud story blog. Why don't you go back...
- Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:50 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
- Views: 202342
Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
This is not a new video, appearing in 2015, and is a translation of an Italian version, which may account for the rather hesitant monotone of the commentary. It begins with a very impressive banner - the "ISTITUTO INTERNAZIONALE STUDI AVANZATI DI SCIENZE DELLA RAPPRESENTAZIONE DELLO SPAZIO"...
- Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:55 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8051
Re: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
Beyond my theological pay-grade, I'm afraid. What I'm happy with is that all God's behaviour can be understood in the rational terms expressed in his creation. That's my field. Back to the 'God and Science' forum with me...
- Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:35 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
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Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
And finally, then, to follow Kurieou's original suggestion to the end, the last of the Videos referenced in the OP. Video 4. We return to the VP-8 image analyser, and by comparing the image of the Shroud with two other wholly unsuitable images, see that they do not compare. This is certainly not a f...
- Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:07 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8051
Re: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
I can see that it is difficult for you to believe that someone can aspire to be a perfectly good Christian, but have ideas that are so very different from your own. I find that practically all the comment above does not make as much sense to me as it obviously does to you. Everything you pronounce a...
- Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:35 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8051
Re: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
Lots of remarkable things are recorded in the Bible, many of which have profound philosophical significance, and I agree that the resurrection is the most important of them. What I don't agree is that any of them are necessarily beyond rationality. That would depend on how you define rationality. I...
- Sat Feb 18, 2017 2:33 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8051
Re: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
Philip: "Nonetheless many things He has done are clearly not how WE would plan and execute actions, and especially consequences. Hugh: It's easy to say that, but we were never in a position to be compared. In his place, I dare say we might have come up with very similar plans and actions. But ...
- Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:09 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
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Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
That's all perfectly true. I agree with you there.
- Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:23 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8051
Re: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
Prolifically. There's Isaiah 55 and some of Paul's letters. They narrow down to "God's ways are not our ways" which is not a ringing endorsement of sporadic sudden supernatural intervention in the universe. "Nonetheless many things He has done are clearly not how WE would plan and exe...
- Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:07 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
- Views: 202342
Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
Oh dearie me. Of course the marks on the Shroud are consistent with the gospels. They're an illustration of the gospels. In so far as the gospels are consistent with what we know of Roman crucifixion, then the Shroud too is consistent with what we know of Roman crucifixion. However, if it is medieva...
- Fri Feb 17, 2017 6:37 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
- Replies: 22
- Views: 8051
Re: Anti-Supernaturalism and God's Logic Vs. Man's Logic
When you say: "He doesn't think like we do. He doesn't operate like we would" you don't really mean that, do you? You mean that he doesn't work like I think he does, but he does work like you think he does. You have decided that he must work 'supernaturally' when it comes to the remarkable...
- Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:47 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
- Views: 202342
Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
The Epistle of Barnabas and the earliest art works on the Crucifixion state that cross was "T" shaped ( shape of the letter "TAU"). And why not. However, the Epistle of Barnabas was written about 100AD, after the mass crucifixions of 70AD, and is more of an interpretation of a m...
- Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:41 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
- Views: 202342
Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
Well, Hugh, then you clearly don't accept what much of the Bible teaches - and PROLIFICALLY so! Why even believe in the resurrection of Christ? What part of creating a physical universe that He began in one moment, which did not exist in the previous moment, eliminates God working miraculously? Rea...
- Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:14 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
- Views: 202342
Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
This diversion is more a matter of faith than science, but for what it's worth I do not think a reluctance to accept supernatural intervention in the completely rational progress of the universe is a denial either of God or of his omnipotence. The question is not could he but did he , and I think he...
- Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:39 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
- Replies: 265
- Views: 202342
Re: Shroud of Turin - Summary of Evidence for its Authenticity
Forgive my ploughing on, but I have sincerely appreciated some of the comments I have received so far. I have returned to the question of reweaving, and been carrying out further experiments on the degradation of cellulose, all stimulated by replies to this thread. Such was the original purpose for ...