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- Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:37 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Philip: Your 4 long paragraph response here is how you would answer Abdullah's question #3? > AGAIN, Morny, why do you care about teachings about a God you reject and > deny? Why are you obsessed with Him and Christianity? Perhaps you could follow-up with a specific question about something already ...
- Sun Feb 23, 2025 12:46 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Philip, I'm not sure why my main very simple question continues to be misunderstood or unanswered in a simple way. Please let me try in a different way. Assume a young person, named Abdullah, was brought up in a devout Islamic religious environment. In his comparative religious studies, he learned t...
- Fri Feb 21, 2025 4:20 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Morny wrote: ↑Fri Feb 21, 2025 6:20 pm Response to Philip, Fliegender, et. al.: > People are given but two choices: Glory, beauty and bliss with their Creator > FOREVER. OR, eternal separation and punishment. Jews and Muslims _DO_ sincerely choose "Glory, beauty and bliss with their Creator FOR...
- Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:10 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Response to abelcainsbrother: > Morny.You do realize that by you choosing atheism there is no basis for what is right or wrong for you. Hilarious. Ever hear about "The Golden Rule"? And before you mistakenly make the knee-jerk claim that the rule originates via Matthew 7:12, note that the ...
- Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Response to Fliegender:
> Tough luck for you if you can’t accept God not rewarding sincerity.
You are confused. I can accept God not rewarding sincerity.
I cannot accept the self-contradiction of an ALL-LOVING God for eternity grotesquely punishing sincerity. The question is: How can anyone?!
> Tough luck for you if you can’t accept God not rewarding sincerity.
You are confused. I can accept God not rewarding sincerity.
I cannot accept the self-contradiction of an ALL-LOVING God for eternity grotesquely punishing sincerity. The question is: How can anyone?!
- Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:08 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Response to Philip: Again, thank you for your clear response. > And, as no unbeliever wants what the Bible says Heaven is ALL about (which is GOD / CHRIST!), ... Your idea here misrepresents my position. You will find this hard to believe, but I want Christianity to be true as much as you do! Among ...
- Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:03 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Response to abelcainsbrother: > You living as if a god does not exist is gambling you are correct without making sure you are correct. Which of you, a Jew, and a Muslim are correct? All 3 religious faiths are mutually exclusive - at _most_ one of you is correct. Why don't the Jew and Muslim accept y...
- Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:02 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Response to Fliegender: > You're too hard on atheists. Hatred of God is the default position of > humanity and that's why there are so many false faiths. You think Jews, Muslims, atheists, etc., hate your God?! I've never talked to _any_ contemplative sincere Jew, Muslim, atheist, who said that they...
- Mon Feb 10, 2025 5:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Philip: thank you for your helpful follow-up: > [...] they refuse to embrace God as He truly exists - which is the God > fully revealed in the New Testament, the Father / Son / Spirit Trinitarian > God. Please correct me if I'm misrepresenting your follow-up, but I feel like my earlier characterizat...
- Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:26 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
Philip gives a thoughtful, reasoned answer, and asks questions whose answers I assume are relevant to whether a person will go to hell? If so, Philip, do I have to answer those questions for your Jewish and Muslim siblings before seeing your thumbs-up or thumbs-down regarding their ultimate fates? I...
- Sat Feb 08, 2025 6:34 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
Re: The Quadruplet Quandary
To "Fliegender":
Your Jewish and Muslim siblings are going to hell? Yes? Or no?
Assuming yes, how can the loving Christian God do that to your quadruplet siblings? Those 2 people are as just as smart, knowledgeable, and sincere that you are mistaken, as you are about them.
Your Jewish and Muslim siblings are going to hell? Yes? Or no?
Assuming yes, how can the loving Christian God do that to your quadruplet siblings? Those 2 people are as just as smart, knowledgeable, and sincere that you are mistaken, as you are about them.
- Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:06 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: The Quadruplet Quandary
- Replies: 39
- Views: 49148
The Quadruplet Quandary
As far as I can tell, Christian fundamental beliefs are: 1. Eternal salvation in heaven _requires_ the belief that Jesus is God. 2. Hell is real and unrelenting eternal torment for those who reject that Jesus is God. Heaven is eternal bliss. 3. God unequivocally loves everyone, no matter how evil, n...
- Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:09 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Do most non-Christians, atheists or agnostics TRULY have an EVIDENCE problem driving their unbelief?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 28152
Re: Do most non-Christians, atheists or agnostics TRULY have an EVIDENCE problem driving their unbelief?
Frank Turek says: "If Christianity were true, would you become a Christian? If the person hesitates or says no, evidence isn't their problem, they are their problem." I agree 100% with Frank! Anyone who accepts the premise that "Christianity is true", and then willfully and purpo...
- Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:56 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: The Strongest Argument for God
- Replies: 245
- Views: 214344
Re: The Strongest Argument for God
It would be like me disagreeing with evolution because I don't see any real-time evolution happening. The disagreement shows ignorance of the actual argument ( since evolution isn't observed happening in real-time). Eh? Evolution in real time Literally, a textbook example of multiple independent mu...
- Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:12 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: The Strongest Argument for God
- Replies: 245
- Views: 214344
Re: The Strongest Argument for God
I find it a powerful evidence that, of the millions of other species, we are the only creature on earth that is so much further advanced in intelligence, reasoning, and having deep psychological and spiritual traits, and abilities are that are far superior to any other specie on the planet. As I've...