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by Rubberneck
Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:05 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: The Foolishness of Many Non-believers
Replies: 202
Views: 57998

Re: The Foolishness of Many Non-believers

If you break an egg open to make an omelet, and you find a little red spec in the egg, meaning the egg was fertilized, do you change the menu to chicken?
by Rubberneck
Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:45 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What can't be evidence for God?
Replies: 10
Views: 2170

What can't be evidence for God?

I thought about posting this in the "Evidence" thread, but I thought it may derail it slightly so I've started a new one.

So, can anyone give an example of something that can't be evidence for God?
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:48 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

Then we'll have to agree to disagree. On the whole I find that most people are aware of what it means by today's standard. I am happy to agree to disagree. What I have found however (especially on Reddit) is that there are many different types of "atheism" even atheist Christians, I think...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:20 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

The classical definition? You're living in Ancient Greek times are you, or have you caught up with how language and meanings have changed since then? It's not that it has changed, it's that it has lost any real meaning, it can mean anything you want it to these days. The reason why we have definiti...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:48 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

Ahhh atheism the most concertina word in the English language, I prefer to use the classical definition as outlined by Jac here http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=38443&hilit=atheism+belief+position&start=60 Under the classical definition of atheism you are not an...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

PerciFlage,

Correct.

I also find it hard to believe that this is difficult to understand. ;)
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:26 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

I believe I have hair, even though I have not seen my scalp. It could be fake. But I do not know certain things about my hair. I don't know the average thickness. How many are grey. Even or odd. Etc. We know there is or is not a God. So which do you believe it is? Do you believe: 1. There is no God...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:52 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

+ Let's make it simpler and take out the apostrophes : 1). Atheists do not believe God exists. 2). Atheists believe God does not exist. Conclusion: the two statements are the same. Online Dictionary says: don't (doʊnt) 1. contraction of do not. 2. Nonstandard (except in some dialects). contraction ...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:40 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

Rubberneck, do you just don't have any belief system then? You don't believe God doesn't exist. Seems I could then say you believe God exists. But obviously you don't believe that. So you have no belief. ? I don't understand how someone cannot have a belief. You either believe God exists, or you be...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:03 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

But they're not opposites. They're the same. Let's make it simpler so you can see the two statements are the same: 1). Atheists don't believe God exists. 2). Atheists believe God doesn't exist. It sounds like a way to avoid claiming a belief. That way one can criticize other beliefs, without having...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:15 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

All atheists don't believe in the existence of gods, but not all atheists believe gods don't exist. Since I don't see the difference, could someone explain it to me. It looks exactly the same to me. One is "I don't believe in God", the other is "I believe God doesn't exist". Wha...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:14 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

Like I said, it depends. Some concepts are drowned in anthropomorphisation, so much so that God might as well be a reality jumping Superman (perhaps with his underpants on the inside, though). The other problem is of course language and the ability to communicate the concept. Any attempt will be tar...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:45 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

That's my stance too - the atheism I had in mind when drawing my venn chart was the "I do believe god doesn't exist" kind. Even then, though, it would be possible for someone to be a hardline atheist as well as a deist or a spiritualist, but mapping all that out on a diagram is more than ...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:34 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

So is it fair to say you're an atheist in a weak (lack of belief) as opposed to strong (definite belief against) sense? Yes, if weak is the label you choose to use for it. I don't believe God exists. I don't believe God doesn't exist. Disclaimer: some posters may find this boring . ;) Isn't that ag...
by Rubberneck
Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:26 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Forms?
Replies: 249
Views: 59819

Re: Through the Lens: Evolution, "What About Transitional Fo

PerciFlage wrote:So is it fair to say you're an atheist in a weak (lack of belief) as opposed to strong (definite belief against) sense?
Yes, if weak is the label you choose to use for it.

I don't believe God exists.
I don't believe God doesn't exist.

Disclaimer: some posters may find this boring. ;)