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- Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:48 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Fact is that the pagan gods decided on Christian faith.
- Replies: 7
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Re: Fact is that the pagan gods decided on Christian faith.
RickD Are you open to the idea that Jesus is God? Or have you already made up your mind that He isn't? Let me explain in Jesus’ words: Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. Joh 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from m...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 4:32 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
neo-x Jerzy, I know its you...this gives you away I saw this explanation few times before & read it from jerzy's post lately. I would like to have jerzy's knowledge. It looks as there is no point arguing with him (I tried before) because he knows what he is saying. I also saw him posting on one ...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:34 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
neo-x Prooftexting will not help your case… You still don’t understand the difference between proof texting (proving a theology looking up verses which may “proof” it) and quoting proof texts (no one can manipulate) which explain (no need for guess work or stories what they mean) exactly and clearly...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:00 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Who said that Satan is a fallen angel who tempts, kills...?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 14483
Re: Who said that Satan is a fallen angel who tempts, kills.
What a topic. It looks like nobody can prove that Satan is a fallen angel. All I can see is out-of-context inferences that the prophecy about fall of the king of Babylon in Isa 14:12 or king of Tyre in Eze 28 supposed to be “understood” as fall of an angel Satan. But who said that an angel called sa...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 2:44 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
neo-x Bible verses? Is there anything wrong with Bible verses? The gospels all present christ as the son of God. Anybody questions this? What it means according to Jesus? Joh 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom th...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:43 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
B. W. 262 AD Dionysius "Neither, then, may we divide into three godheads the wonderful and divine unity… ] Another story but no Biblical verse/s not only to state this but even remotely suggest. B.W. I can see you have a good command of what people said. Do you also know what the pagans and oth...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:21 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
B. W. {quote] Here is your challenge - prove that the early Church fathers did not expound upon the nature of the Godhead before 300 AD...[/quote] They tried to figure out how to blend the new religion with the existing beliefs. Thus there were differing ways they saw it fitting. However, none seem ...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:57 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
B.W. The LORD said unto my Lord … therefore, the Father is truly Lord , and the Son truly Lord , Few quick things to notice. Please notice how Irenaeus mixed up the LORD (all capital) said to the Lord (first capital), the one whom He made Lord Ac 2:36 Further, why would one God have to make things h...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:37 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
Babylos Are you just playing stupid or do you think I am? I am asking you for the link where you lifted the above quote from. Look up thevanquish29 opening post on page 1 the fifth entry: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated in...
- Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:07 am
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
PeteSinCA
The Bible is the only classic for me. It doesn’t mention a Trinity God and I will not break God’s commandment to conform to man-made theologies.Krystyna, you can also find many/most (all?) of the writings B.W. quoted in the Christian Classics Ethereal Library.
- Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:52 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
B.W. ou are in error: 74 AD The Letter of Barnabas... I see no Biblical reference to verse/s stating that God is Trinity. All of your long post shows how some people were trying to figure out how to accommodate the new religion into their belief system coming up with many ideas. This is my challenge...
- Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
RickD Krystyna, Are you open to the idea that Jesus is God? I would appreciate a clear Biblical text stating that Jesus is God. Didn’t Jesus say that the Father is the only true God making the eternal life subject to this knowledge? However, your question is not entirely clear. Jesus said in Jn 17:6...
- Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:46 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: Fact is that the pagan gods decided on Christian faith.
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2403
Fact is that the pagan gods decided on Christian faith.
Whether the Trinitarians want to acknowledge it or not it’s a historical fact that the pagan gods decided on Christian faith. Knowledge of God’s nature is the autmost important issue in human salvation because the eternal life is subject to it. Jesus didn’t know anything about his divinity or that h...
- Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:37 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
Byblos I still can't find the quote you referenced, Let me copy/paste: I like this one: "The formulation 'one God in three Persons' was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the fourth century. . . . Among t...
- Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:56 pm
- Forum: The Bible and Scripture
- Topic: There is no Trinity
- Replies: 123
- Views: 28325
Re: There is no Trinity
RickD
Are you trying to say that Jesus’ “view” is wrong or that he didn’t know what you know?
I believe in Jesus’ “view”. His “view” is that the Father is the only true God; his God.Are you open to the possibility that the trinitarian view is true?
Are you trying to say that Jesus’ “view” is wrong or that he didn’t know what you know?