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by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:13 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?
Replies: 271
Views: 52471

Re: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?

I acknowledged the fact that I inadvertently buy products from time to time that may come from exploited employees, and if the law wants to see me as a slave owner then they can come and arrest me . Your drawing a long bow with this argument as I said I'm not keeping people as property I have no di...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:06 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?
Replies: 111
Views: 24789

Re: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?

If I called you ignorant and said you were an embarrassment to other Christians I'd probably be banned. No, you wouldn't. Others have called me a bad Christian but I don't get all babyish about it. As for you, sorry, but you are ignorant. I was an atheist all my life until my mid 40s. I was in athe...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:01 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

Slavery in the modern slavery was much different than in the bible . They were not forced into it § Forced enslavement of Hebrews was punishable by death. "Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death. " (Ex 21.16) If a man is cau...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:38 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?
Replies: 111
Views: 24789

Re: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?

[quote="Furstentum Liechtenstein"]You are remarkably ignorant for an atheist. I suggest you buy The Atheist Debater's Handbook by B.C. Johnson. You need to read it badly. But before you read that, you should buy Goerge H. Smith's Atheism - The Case Against God. And since you are also remar...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:33 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?
Replies: 111
Views: 24789

Re: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?

You are remarkably ignorant for an atheist. I suggest you buy The Atheist Debater's Handbook by B.C. Johnson. You need to read it badly. But before you read that, you should buy Goerge H. Smith's Atheism - The Case Against God. And since you are also remarkably ignorant about the Bible, you need to...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:22 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?
Replies: 271
Views: 52471

Re: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?

Now the god of the bible seems to think its fine back then to own people as property and fine to beat them as long as they don't die immediately. Do you agree that treating people like that in those times is fine?

Simple question.
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:11 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?
Replies: 271
Views: 52471

Re: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?

I answered you No, you didn't answer me. You continue to evade the question. Your self-righteousness is amazing. Get off your high moral horse: if you buy a product manufactured or grown or transformed in a cheap-labor country, you are participating in an economy which exploits people. And will you...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:01 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

outlaw wrote: Correct, as long as they don't die immediately so long as god is concerened your off the hook. In what time or place is this an acceptable way to treat people? Outlaw, You are looking at the ANE through 21st century glasses. We need to be careful comparing the way it was in the ANE, t...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:49 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

Slavery was a part of life back then, whether we like it or not. Outlaw isn't concerned about slavery. All he wants to do is criticize the Bible and he's found what he thinks is a motherload vein in the topic of slavery. Notice how he continually rejects the explanations given. When he runs out of ...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:15 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

outlaw wrote: Correct, as long as they don't die immediately so long as god is concerened your off the hook. In what time or place is this an acceptable way to treat people? Outlaw, You are looking at the ANE through 21st century glasses. We need to be careful comparing the way it was in the ANE, t...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:55 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?
Replies: 111
Views: 24789

Re: What would have happened had Adam never sinned?

On one hand you say god didn't want us to sin, while at the same time say that jesus was Part of gods plan all along and claiming god is omniscient which would mean he knew we were going to sin hence jesus. Why would he plan for jesus if he didn't want us to sin? First, Jesus IS God - or do you not...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:35 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?
Replies: 271
Views: 52471

Re: Who made the rule that death is the punishment for sin?

outlaw wrote: When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property. (Exod. 21:20-21) Outlaw, Did you bother to read the chapter ...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:29 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

Outlaw, I'm offering to send you a book for free. To wherever in aussie land you live. If you are willing to read it and be open to learning something new. When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave surv...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:25 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

Here are the two passages, both in Exodus 21 (translation from the Jewish Publication Society version): "When you acquire a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years; in the seventh year he shall go free, without payment. If he came single, he shall leave single; if he had a wife, his wife shall ...
by outlaw
Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:07 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Slavery in the Bible
Replies: 102
Views: 27535

Re: Slavery in the Bible

Slavery in the modern slavery was much different than in the bible . They were not forced into it OT:: In the OT, this relationship was overwhelmingly voluntary, and forced, non-negotiated (as in pledge of work, in case of default of debt, cf. the case in 2 Kings 4.1 where the creditor is probably ...