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- Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:40 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
I don’t agree or understand either and you are only repeating the two positions without trying to explain. Oh... I have a hunch that you understand my argument and the logic behind my argument perfectly well. The logic is neither difficult or complicated... and I am convinced your reasoning capabil...
- Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:40 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
I still don’t understand your logic. Even more, if it were as you say, what is the reason for comparing the speeds ? We both agree that the left road is blocked. Why not discuss the properties of the right without comparing with the blocked one all the time? I really don’t understand. Because compa...
- Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
I still don’t understand your logic. Even more, if it were as you say, what is the reason for comparing the speeds ? We both agree that the left road is blocked. Why not discuss the properties of the right without comparing with the blocked one all the time? I really don’t understand. Because compa...
- Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:33 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Stipulating to 3a, would you agree with the following two statements? 1) Coordinated random mutations involving six or more non-beneficial mutations (substitutions/adds) exceeds the capability of all life that has ever existed on this planet. 2) Observable random beneficial mutations (substitutions...
- Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:01 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Stipulating to 3a, would you agree with the following two statements? 1) Coordinated random mutations involving six or more non-beneficial mutations (substitutions/adds) exceeds the capability of all life that has ever existed on this planet. 2) Observable random beneficial mutations (substitutions...
- Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:58 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
As I wrote above, your argument is obvious erroneously. If you think it isn’t, please explain: How can you say anything about the possibility of random beneficial mutation generating advanced functions based on the evidence you have seen and has been presented in this thread? I think the logic is s...
- Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:15 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
As I wrote above, your argument is obvious erroneously. If you think it isn’t, please explain: How can you say anything about the possibility of random beneficial mutation generating advanced functions based on the evidence you have seen and has been presented in this thread? I think the logic is s...
- Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:02 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
As I wrote above, your argument is obvious erroneously. If you think it isn’t, please explain: How can you say anything about the possibility of random beneficial mutation generating advanced functions based on the evidence you have seen and has been presented in this thread? I think the logic is s...
- Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:23 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
There are two potential methods for evolution. One using non-beneficial and one using beneficial mutations. We agree on that and also on that the non-beneficial method isn’t possible for more than two or perhaps three necessary mutations. This makes it impossible for advanced functions. This makes ...
- Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:37 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Until we see empirically observable evidence that beneficial mutations are able to produce coordinated adds and substitutions at a rate orders of magnitude faster than the observed capability of non-beneficial mutations, then the observable evidence indicates that the capability of non-beneficial m...
- Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:41 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Perhaps we can stop here for a while and try to summarize. We agree that any function that involves six or more non-beneficial random mutations working together exceeds the capability of all life that has ever existed on this planet. (And as we are discussing the evolution theory, we should stick t...
- Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:41 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Stipulating to your statement: "That doesn’t mean that every case with beneficial mutations is more rapid than some case with non-beneficial mutations." Do you agree with the following statement... In order to create the tree of life, the number of empirically observable examples of combi...
- Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:56 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
Stipulating to your statement: "That doesn’t mean that every case with beneficial mutations is more rapid than some case with non-beneficial mutations." Do you agree with the following statement... In order to create the tree of life, the number of empirically observable examples of combi...
- Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:45 am
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
==> 3. A string of beneficial mutations (substitutions/adds) will hypothetically work together to form new functions at a rate that is exponentially faster than non-beneficial mutations work together to form new functions and 4. we should be able to empirically observe orders of magnitude more stri...
- Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:31 pm
- Forum: Questioning Non-belief
- Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
- Replies: 121
- Views: 117988
Re: Can Mutation Invent?
The conclusion is that the frequency of the combination of non-beneficial mutations (for instance in the malaria bacteria) says nothing about the frequencies of combinations of beneficial mutations. I understand the premise perfectly well... Here are the assumptions... 1. A string of non-beneficial...