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by ruthrush
Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:04 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Luke 22:70, Ye say that I am
Replies: 8
Views: 2931

"Christian2" Christian2, Youngs Literal Translation translates the verse as follows: And they all said, `Thou, then, art the Son of God?' and he said unto them, `Ye say [it], because I am;' "oti" can be translated as: that, because, since oti is Strong's # 3754. You are right. R...
by ruthrush
Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:51 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

quote="puritan lad" OK. Rather than focus on the internal inconsistencies here (Exodus 12:48-49 clearly commands adult circumcision), [/color] The problem may be that you are not going forward as much as you need so you can understand the passage. Look at verses 50- 51, " Thus did al...
by ruthrush
Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:00 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

"puritan lad" Are Christians required to circumcise their 8-day old infants? Yes or no? I would say yes but not to become Jewish. The Biblical reason, is that Ishmael and Abraham's household servants were circumcised even though they were not members of the covenant people. The covenant p...
by ruthrush
Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:57 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

<snipped> from "ruthrush" I believe that salvation is through the Messiah Yeshua. The MC Law, at the time of Acts was still "good for repentance and the forgiveness of sin". Now just how that applies is different, since there is no animal sacrifice system in place. Of course the...
by ruthrush
Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:37 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

from "ruthrush" <snipped> I believe that salvation is through the Messiah Yeshua. The MC Law, at the time of Acts was still "good for repentance and the forgiveness of sin". Now just how that applies is different, since there is no animal sacrifice system in place. Of course the...
by ruthrush
Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:56 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

quote="bizzt" Phl 3:4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more: Phl 3:5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, [of] the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law...
by ruthrush
Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

<snipped> If I understood Ruth correctly, she (please forgive the assumption, I do not know your gender) is arguing that salvation is through Christ, not the law. The law is good for repentance and the forgiveness of sin. To what beneficial extent that is I do not know (Ruth, could you expand on th...
by ruthrush
Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:22 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

Ruthrush, I see you are being bombarded with questions right now, but when you get a chance, I would like for you to explain this scripture. "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision, but keeping the commandments of God." (1 Corinthians 7:19) I thought circumcision ...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:46 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

Ruth, so now you are saying that grace through faith alone is not sufficient? So is it grace through faith + works that we need to do to see the kingdom of God? If you think you are sufficient in yourself to keep God's laws and thereby walk righteously in God's eyes than more power to you. The only...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:20 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

"puritan lad" [quote from"ruthrush"]Now show me where the writer of Hebrews said Messiah has fulfilled this. <snipped> For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. For he finds fault with them when he says: "Behold, ...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:58 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

Ruth, so now you are saying that grace through faith alone is not sufficient? So is it grace through faith + works that we need to do to see the kingdom of God? If you think you are sufficient in yourself to keep God's laws and thereby walk righteously in God's eyes than more power to you. The only...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:37 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

I see then that the issue for you boils down to whether we are under a New Covenant that changes God's Holy, just and good Mosaic Covenant (MC) directives so that we need not follow them any longer or not. Am I right? Ruth, The New Covenant didn't change anything, it always was and is. Everything e...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:24 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. I'll take this simple route since I don't know the difference between a Coney and a pygarg. :? :wink: Galatians 5: 5-8 5But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:29 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

I see then that the issue for you boils down to whether we are under a New Covenant that changes God's Holy, just and good Mosaic Covenant (MC) directives so that we need not follow them any longer or not. Am I right? Ruth, The New Covenant didn't change anything, it always was and is. Everything e...
by ruthrush
Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:26 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Faith, Works and Covenant with the Jews
Replies: 90
Views: 20476

So Christ's work isn't finished yet? He'll be so disappointed to find that out. Of course it isn't finished. He will be coming back to judge and rule as King. Unless you don't count those as work. His work of being the atonement for sin was finished on the cross. His work of shedding His blood for ...