Evidence for God from Science

IMHO, science will never disprove God. I'm not the least bit worried about it.

DB

>>They are not doing this to disprove God, they are trying to find out if a cell could form by natural means. I for one am curious to see how far this group of researchers can get. Science is slowly but surely piecing things together.<< I'm with you, Himantolophus. It's exhilarating to live in a tim...

Hi Canuck & Zoegirl, >>Doesn't do anything to disprove the involvement of God<< No, it certainly doesn't. >>Sounds like they went to a lot of tiime, effort and trouble to decide how that cell would have to be designed in order to be viable .....<< Yes, they certainly did! DB

Reconstructing the very first cell: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=scientists-close-to-recon Harvard Medical School researchers report in Nature that they have built a model of what they believe the very first living cell may have looked like, which contains a strip of genetic material surround...

Hi GL, >>An open system is generally what you want, not a closed system<< It doesn't matter what we want - we work with what we have. In biological systems, there are constraints to change: The constrained (hard to change) parts of the genome are the "conserved core processes." These inclu...

Josh McDowell's book, co-authored by Dembski, is pretty blatantly anti-science.

DB

>>it was all over the Roman empire and beyond, which shows that they spread out individually while still preaching the same message<< If, by the same message, you mean Marcionites, Ebionites, Valentinians, various brands of Gnostics, and dozens of other local brands of the message, I agree with you....

>>Thanks for the tips and I'm sorry you feel that its such a simple consideration. Common descent is only one piece of the puzzle, I'm really less interested in that than I am about the process and mechanism. When you make wild claims, you have to back those up. Even if I do accept common descent, I...

Hi GL and thanx for your reply. I agree the percentages of DNA similarities in similar and non-similar species seem to be thrown around quite frivolously. This statement from your offering seems a little out of line: Of the random mutations that do occur, and have manifested traits in organisms that...

The stickleback is the best example I know of where a part changed in a short period of time. A fin didn't become a leg, but give it a million or 10 million years. A big change like sticklebacks have is pretty impressive for only a few decades. The ear is a remarkable Rube Goldberg apparatus. There ...

Hi gl,

Thanx for your reply,

>>So...whats your boggle?<<

That you might be misusing the word "random." The universe is full of randomness. Some of it may be universal but much of it is confined to certain types of randomness within closed systems.

DB

Hi GL, It's OK for randomness to occur within a set of parameters. An initial poker hand of five cards is limited to those possibilities of 5 card combinations from a 52 card deck. The word random still applies, even though you can't add a cow in to the possibilities. In the same way, biological sys...

Hi Gman, Thanx for your very rational reply and thanx also for disclosing of your scientific background. Although we have arrived at different conclusions, clearly you have made decisions from an adequate data base. When all the smoke clears I find evolution to be incredible also. It moves so slowly...

>>I gather your faith in say Christianity over Islam is perhaps more like preferring chocolate over strawberry icecream<< Heh, heh - well I guess that's one way to put it. But for me,that would apply more to Cath vs protestant. Islam would be more like spinach or tofu. I prefer butter pecan, anyway....

Hi godslanguage, Thanx for your reply. >>unfortunately Darwinian Evolution remains a 'just a hypothesis'<< According to science, gl, evolution has been granted "theory" status by science for over a century. By nonscientific standards, perhaps you're right. >>CSI. You can't argue against IC...