Search found 25 matches

by viator
Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:28 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Our Sinful Nature
Replies: 11
Views: 4611

The issue of free will was brought into the discussion and I would like to identify an issue wherein ones free will has been modified. The title of the article in the following URL is, "Free to choose?", and its continuing sub-title, "Modern neuroscience is eroding the idea of free wi...
by viator
Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:41 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

Look up the definition of intelligent in most any source and then examine what they define as unintelligent. It is not my definition. Examine how intelligence is quantified. http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/intelligence.html "Psychologists have attempted to measure it for well over a century."...
by viator
Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:51 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

But you have just said that intelligence cannot objectively be measured. ... I stated, " We cannot objectively measure whether we are intelligent because we have no way to make a measurement independent from our influence." You asked, "And what is the standard for intelligence?"...
by viator
Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:49 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

Turgonian, it was stupid unintelligent decisions that allowed German national socialism to regain military power; they were supposed to be disarmed after WW1. The Nazi's wouldn't have had to be beaten if the so-called intelligent leaders in Europe had enforced the rules signed at Versailles. I do ag...
by viator
Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:36 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

You did not answer the question. Define unintelligence if you wish, but the answer is simply yes or no. You have changed the parameters. You first asked whether it takes intelligence to identify non-intelligence , now you change it to the term to unintelligence . I agree with Turgonian , that there...
by viator
Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:52 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

Humans sin by nature, ... All you have done is give a definition of what you think is sin, and that only in the view of one religion. What is the point your trying to make though, do you believe that intelligence itself equals perfection? Is there anything perfect? ... You are repeating an assertio...
by viator
Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:04 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

Viator, the problem is defining intelligence. Good point, we do have difficulty in defining the meaning of the word intelligence. It becomes even more difficult when one attempts to define what is an intelligent species. If you can define intelligence by the complexity and ability humans are capabl...
by viator
Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:32 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

Re: Humans not intelligent species

I think you're confusing the concept of "perfect" with "intelligence." ... Perfect has a completely different meaning than intelligence. I would not call any biological species perfect, certainly not homo sapiens. Even if we were intelligent enough to do so, we do not have enoug...
by viator
Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:27 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Humans not intelligent species
Replies: 22
Views: 9446

Humans not intelligent species

I have come to the conclusion that considering humans to be an intelligent species is an ego-centric view. Put the terms "intelligent species" into your favorite search engine to find the various views on my contention. There is not a day that goes by that human actions confirm unintellige...
by viator
Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:55 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Secular, non-secular mathematics
Replies: 18
Views: 5718

angel wrote:Well, to present understanding the speed of light in vacuum with no gravitational field IS a universal constant.
Where has the speed of light been measured in a vacuum with no gravitational field?

Where has the speed of light been measured other than on the earths surface?
by viator
Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:23 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Secular, non-secular mathematics
Replies: 18
Views: 5718

You are making assumptions which we cannot prove. The Boltzmann constant is based upon "conditions" and it has an experimentally determined value. The value used in the CODATA is close enough to be useful. You might be interested in Max Planck's Nobel Lecture. http://nobelprize.org/nobel_p...
by viator
Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:27 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Secular, non-secular mathematics
Replies: 18
Views: 5718

Planck's dimensional analysis

The initial post on this topic presented some simplistic concepts on how our mathematical system developed. The evolution of the symbolic representation of a numeric value allowed individuals to examine concepts involving physical science relationships that used symbols exclusively and this was exte...
by viator
Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:01 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Secular, non-secular mathematics
Replies: 18
Views: 5718

There is a very important difference between the value of a quantity and the unit it is expressed in. ... the actual length is invariant. I agree with that statement completely. I do not call the actual length of the 1H hyperfine transition emission wavelength secular, it only becomes secular when ...
by viator
Fri Sep 29, 2006 11:14 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Universe mathematically ordered
Replies: 18
Views: 4488

Re: Arbitrary units

There is a difference between a measured value and a defined value. The speed of light is defined to be 299 792 458 m/s and that is what it is, there are no other non-zero digits. Since the value of c is a definition, it is by definition accurate and precise to as many significant figures as one ca...
by viator
Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:48 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Secular, non-secular mathematics
Replies: 18
Views: 5718

thechecker, I am not disputing the existence of the Planck length, I questioned the embellishment made by the authors at the ~jeffocal/chapter6.htm site. ... free of all reference to the dimensions and rate of revolution of the planet on which we happen to live, ... The Planck length is affixed with...