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- Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:56 am
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: Joseph Smith and the translation of the gold plates
- Replies: 109
- Views: 40117
Yes, that's the definition of translation. However, when you talk about translating a textual source, what you are talking about is someone: * Viewing the textual source * Reading and comprehending the textual source * Transferring the meaning of the textual souce into another language We are told ...
- Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:02 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: Joseph Smith and the translation of the gold plates
- Replies: 109
- Views: 40117
Joseph Smith and the translation of the gold plates
Note: Some changes have been made from the original post in the old thread. As I have pointed out, you need to find a definition of 'translation' which actually agrees with your position. My position is that the Book of Mormon is a translation of the gold plates, exactly as every account suggests. W...
- Mon Jan 29, 2007 3:20 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
- Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:16 am
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
As I have pointed out, you need to find a definition of 'translation' which actually agrees with your position. My position is that the Book of Mormon is a translation of the gold plates, exactly as every account suggests. What does translation mean? That a message was taken from one language, and ...
- Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:22 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
...a number of Mormon apologists have drawn the same conclusions as I have... ...since a number of Mormon apologists have drawn the same conclusions as I have... Again, I can't help returning to the fact that a number of Mormon apologists have drawn the same conclusions as I have, when reading the ...
- Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:13 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
Fortigurn, It is not in this post that I will attempt to rebutt your arguments. That will come at a later date. The task of determining what exactly happened and trying to include every account(because we have covered only a small number)is a daunting and time consuming one. There have been countles...
- Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:21 am
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
Fortigurn, Yet another extremely long post. I am severely restricted in my time now that school has started back up. I would be glad to continue the discussion, and rebut every single incorrect claim you have put forth. But I will not be able to dedicate very much time to this any longer, between ca...
- Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:20 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
Fortigurn, I am impressed by your research. Often I am grateful for anti-mormons because they endure such painstakingly careful research so they might prove us wrong, and in the process provide us with an excellent and well organized presentation of information. I do however disagree with how you mi...
- Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:28 am
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
The spring semester is in full gear, and unfortunately my posts will be fewer and shorter. I hope to be able to continue the discussion, but please know that it cannot be as fast paced any longer. I have a tough schedule, and grades are very important. I'm sure you know. Today I will not be able to ...
- Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:56 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
Fortigurn, I appreciate your having organized your thoughts well in this latest post. As you probably noticed I often try to lay things out in steps and number them, it helps me to define the discussion. I would also like to take this opportunity to commend you on your perseverance, though I wholly ...
- Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:48 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
- Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:04 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
I have simply been steadfastly pointing out that the absence of any mention of the Bible in the eye witness accounts does not prove that the Bible was not one of the sources of the material in the Book of Mormon Well the absence of the bible, or any kind of list of names from the bible in all of th...
- Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:58 am
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
I have simply been steadfastly pointing out that the absence of any mention of the Bible in the eye witness accounts does not prove that the Bible was not one of the sources of the material in the Book of Mormon Well the absence of the bible, or any kind of list of names from the bible in all of th...
- Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:07 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
It has been my understanding that until now we have been trying to determine whether or not Joseph could have taken the names in the Book of Mormon from the Bible or not. I have demonstrated by means of various eye witness accounts that the process by which the Book of Mormon was written included no...
- Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:53 pm
- Forum: Aberrant Christianity
- Topic: more mormon heresy
- Replies: 166
- Views: 54585
It has been my understanding that until now we have been trying to determine whether or not Joseph could have taken the names in the Book of Mormon from the Bible or not. I have demonstrated by means of various eye witness accounts that the process by which the Book of Mormon was written included no...