Evidence for God from Science

Fortigurn, I disagree completely with your interpretations of the eye witness accounts. I have some comments on your conclusions. We could spend the time to argue over the meanings and implications of the varying accounts, but instead of wasting time, let us get straight to the point. 1) We are disc...

In the interest of making sure that we miss nothing, I will try and focus on each topic we have branched into individually. Instead of trying to be thorough on both of your theories of the origin of the BoM at the same time, let us focus on one at a time. I prefer to first continue with the assertio...

I will have to deal with Gman's rebuttal of my post later. Today is my wife's birthday and I just don't have time to get to it. But it will suffice for now to say that you are dead wrong. Have patience. Fortigurn, I indeed did read the page that I posted a link to. I recognized that it was an anti-m...

Fortigurn, I hope that we are not going round and round here. Hopefully we can be clear to each other and read each other's posts thoroughly. You have demonstrated that Joseph could have taken about 4% of the names in the Book of Mormon from his surroundings. You have not proven that he did. You hav...

As I mentioned above, you have no evidence whatsoever that Smith's personal experience allowed him to even be aware of all the places on your map. I gave you a link (several times). I don't recall you ever showing me anything that proves that Joseph had a knowledge of the places on Mr. Holley's map...

So we can say without doubt that Smith's personal experience provided him with abundant sources for personal and place names for the Book of Mormon, and that of the place names a significant number of them are depicted as in the same place as their New England sources. As I mentioned above, you hav...

Sounds like a good candidate for a mascot for the feminist movement.

Actually according to the Book of Mormon, it was a language called by the Nephites 'reformed Egyptian. The article to which you linked helpfully quotes them saying that ('the characters which are called among us the reformed Egyptian'), and then says they didn't mean it, they meant something else. ...

You consistently amaze me with your condescending demeanor. Maybe you didn't understand what reformed egyptian is. It is not a language called Reformed Egyptian. It is egyptian, that had been altered in some way so that it is no longer the same. The evolution of egyptian is exactly that, an altered ...

Again, I hope you will remember that I am not schooled in linguistics. If I err please remember that it is an error on my part, and should not be viewed as the best argument made by better trained LDS apologists. I believe Egyptian and Hebrew are both w/i the Afro-Asian family of languages, but that...

I wish you all a very merry Christmas. Though we may not agree on varying points of theology, one thing we do agree on is that Christ is the Lord, and celebrating his birth gives us a chance to remember that we at least agree on some things. This debunks thoroughly your claim that Smith could not ha...

Sargon wrote: Well Nahom certainly is not an english word. The Book of Mormon claims to be the account of a family who speaks hebrew, but wrote the book of mormon in hebrew. How can they be writing in Hebrew, if they were allegedly using 'reformed Egyptian'? I apologize, I mistyped. The book was wr...

Well Nahom certainly is not an english word. The Book of Mormon claims to be the account of a family who speaks hebrew, but wrote the book of mormon in hebrew. So when Joseph is translating the egyptian characters on the plate, he is translating hebrew written in egyptian. So Nephi would have writte...

I was betting you'd come in at about 80%-90% and so I think your estimate is "very fair" given your biases. Our biases are different, and so I am in the 50-66% range. I think 75% is high, but it is not that far from the top end of my range and so I'd suggest we move on (and we can use 75%...

Well, if I am given the following 4 options to choose from, I think I have a high probability of my conclusion being correct: 1. Nephi was careful and deliberate in separating Nahom from the others. 2. Nephi was not careful and deliberate but still unconciously seperated Nahom from the others. 3. Ne...