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- Tue Aug 14, 2007 11:12 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A theist takes on an atheist: Hitchens vs. Hitchens. Who win
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3671
Re: A theist takes on an atheist: Hitchens vs. Hitchens. Who win
then there is no purely rational basis to act contrary to one's immediate wants and desires beyond immediate consequences and biologically all purpose in life is void once reproduction is achieved. You have a good point, though I'll contend that one not need a "rational basis" to be have ...
- Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:15 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: A theist takes on an atheist: Hitchens vs. Hitchens. Who win
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3671
Re: A theist takes on an atheist: Hitchens vs. Hitchens. Who win
I'm biased of course but I believe the Theist brother does a good job of pointing out where the atheist continues to jump around and refuses to stay on point. I didn't see him jumping around or deflecting the argument any more than his brother wanted to maitain control of the "subject." T...
- Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:51 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: If a Begin requires a Beginner...
- Replies: 67
- Views: 23764
Re: If a Begin requires a Beginner...
Hmm. I do not understand why you were complaining earlier when I stated your beliefs appeared as such. Perhaps you were just trying to avoid responding to questions I was raising of such a positivist position. I'm curious if you actually read what I write. I have told you on several occasions that ...
- Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:17 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
However I agree with Kurieou when he suggested it would be wise to familiarize yourself with the philisophical discussions surrounding time. There was no suggestion that I become educated on the subject. It was a statement that discussing it with me would be a waste of time. The implication is that...
- Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:41 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
Hello, I'm back from my suspension for "attacking Christian beliefs." Personally I never thought I was, but I don't make the rules. I'll be short, since the response to your question has already been provided in another thread. To challenge the obvious existence of time in the universe, I ...
- Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:40 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: The Case for the Global Flood
- Replies: 66
- Views: 19506
Re: The Case for the Global Flood
Of course, the logistics are only a problem until you accept the fact that God is omnipotent. He could have made the animals easy to find. He could have divnely inspired Noah to know what to feed them. A loaf of bread and a fish could have been used to feed the entire ark for all 40 days. The animal...
- Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:39 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
I just want to see your claims backed up rather than it be simply stated that such logic makes holding both beliefs inconsistent. I can't just state something and let that stand on its own, yet you can simply state "The universe is temporal but God is not......God can become temporal when he w...
- Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:40 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: The Case for the Global Flood
- Replies: 66
- Views: 19506
Re: The Case for the Global Flood
Banky, I understand, but I will be a bit careful. There are currently around 4300 species of mammals, just over 6000 reptile species and just under 10,000 species of birds. It is still a big number, but a long way from being in the millions. If you include the ~million species of insects, that gets...
- Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:14 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: The Case for the Global Flood
- Replies: 66
- Views: 19506
Re: The Case for the Global Flood
Banky, just curious, what is your source for 2 million species that was supposed to go on the ark? I'm not positive, but I believe I recently read it in The Third Chimpanzee by J.M. Diamond. I quick google search and you'll get an idea that, though we can only make predictions as many still have ye...
- Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:34 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: The Case for the Global Flood
- Replies: 66
- Views: 19506
Re: The Case for the Global Flood
Out of curiosity, have the global flood proponents answered the question as to how two of each of the almost 2 million species of animals fit on the Ark? What did the plant eaters eat? Did Noah bring on extra animals so the carnivores could eat during the 40 days they were on water? How did Noah fin...
- Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:50 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
Which, again, is a quality that you have assigned to God and have determined that the universe is without "just because."That is, God is self-existent, being neither created or contingent upon something else.
- Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:22 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
I fail to see where the logical contradiction or inconsistency is. I would be interested if you could elaborate on the logic that leads one to believe that a beginning is necessary, and why such logic is inconsistent with the idea that having no end is possible? If you believe such logic is inconsi...
- Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:26 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
Since you believe that it must have a beginning AND an end, then I see no contradiciton in your model. I think there is a logical contradiction if one were to believe that that the universe must have a beginning, yet will continue infintely forward. It's not that it isn't possible to have a beginnin...
- Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:00 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Infinite Universe
- Replies: 27
- Views: 9717
Re: Infinite Universe
I was reading that astrophysicists have calculated a 95% certainty rate that the universe will continue expanding and not collapse. If this is true, wouldn't this basically mean we are living in an infinite universe? I've always read that in an infinite universe it's a mathematical fact that everyt...
- Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:20 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: If a Begin requires a Beginner...
- Replies: 67
- Views: 23764
Re: If a Begin requires a Beginner...
2. Many of the atheists we have come through here do adopt a purely materialistic point of view, which in effect declares that only that which is physical, observable, measurable etc. can be used as a basis to establish truth or reality. I agree with this statement, with emphasis on the word "...