Evidence for God from Science

In response to your post, Paul was not the only one who baptized. And Jesus DID baptise, not with water but with the Holy Spirit. As far as going to hell simply because you weren't baptised? I personally do not believe in hell or heaven immediately after death. I believe that people are judged afte...

Right. Jesus was talking about SPIRITUAL rebirth, not physical. Nicodemus misunderstood what Jesus was talking about, so he was talking about a physical rebirth. Once you are spiritually reborn, you are able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. But in order to be spiritually reborn, you have to be bapti...

I may be able to see where people can get this view. However, Jesus wasn't talking about this. In order to be "reborn" you need to be baptised with water. Only then can you receive the Holy Spirit. John himself understood this. The only way he ever baptised anyone, even Christ, was with w...

Ok, one other verse I found. John 3:5. "Jesus answered, 'Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born OF WATER and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God". This plainly states that water is REQUIRED for a proper baptism. Jenwat3, sorry to have to cut and paste this instead of ...

One question: Should we not follow Jesus' example? In order to be properly baptized, it should be by water. It is a symbol of "rebirth", where we die and are "born again" into God's kingdom. In Matthew 4:13,16. "Then Jesus came from Galilee to John to the Jordan to be bapti...

Yes, that is how it sounded to me. And also, I agree that being filled with the Holy Spirit comes as a result of accepting Jesus as your Savior. However, from the evidence that I have found in Scripture, which a lot of the verses are provided in the link (above) Judah provided, I would hold firm to ...

Jenwat3,
I just want to make sure I understand you. In reference to above, when you say "Baptized", do you mean in Jesus' name and not water? Thank you for your patience with me on this.

Judah, thank you for that link, it was very helpful in backing up what I believe. From that source come the verses that I base my belief on this issue: that a person is to believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior and shall be granted eternal life. 15). . .that whoever believes in Him should ...

I have always believed that "Baptism" referred to being "Baptized in the Holy Spirit" and was part of Christ's gift of Salvation to us once we accepted Him as our Lord and Savior. I Peter 3:21- "and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dir...

I found this today and thought it might provide some amusing reading, especially the potassium part.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,315131,00.html

Judah, Thank you. I understand the use of parables in the Bible and I know that in this case I am more than likely over-analyzing but it is very hard when searching for answers to questions that are brought up by the skeptics I encounter. I know that parables are used for teaching but sometimes that...

Stand back a little and look at the context. As well as speaking to the Pharisees, Jesus was also busy teaching His disciples through the use of parables - the Great Banquet (Luke 14), the Lost Sheep, the Lost Coin, the Lost Son (Luke 15), the Shrewd Manager, the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16). A p...

jenwat3 wrote:Just so I can understand better, you think that it is Heaven, and they will be resurrected from it later?

Whether it is Heaven itself or a place in Heaven, I am still not sure. But I do agree that both will be resurrected from there to join Jesus on Earth during his second coming.

You're welcome. But as I stated this this only MY VIEW. I think you might read all posts and come up with the one that makes the most sense to you. :D I have, and from what I have read from the posts on this subject has helped me eliminate any thought of a state of "limbo" as i had origin...

One other point of view on this. Lazarus' presence at Abraham's bosom depicts a very close relationship. The apostle John is recorded as having reclined on Christ's bosom as "the disciple that Christ loved". (John 13:23) So a special relationship is shown between Abraham and Lazarus, with...