Evidence for God from Science

BTW, one other quick point about "the Law" in the NT referring to the whole OT Law, not just the 10 Commandments: In Matt. 22:40, after referring back to the 2 commandments to love God and your neighbor, Jesus said on these two hang "all the Law and the Prophets ". This phrase &q...

Even in this latter sense the Law is still "held up", BTW. For example, when Jesus said not even the smallest stroke or letter of the Law would pass away until all was accomplished (Matt. 5:18), He then proceeded to talk about not just the 10 Commandments but also the commandments regardi...

Ed, why do you think we are no longer commanded to keep the sabbath as a day of rest? Note that the Sabbath was made by Christ, and was established as a sign between Him and His people FOREVER. Does not forever still include today? I understand your point, but I think you have to be careful about h...

Ed, you say you see the 10 commandments as belonging to the old covenant. What about these verses in the N.T. Matt.5:19,15:9, 19:7, 22:40. Mark10:19, 12:29. Luke 1:6, 18:20. John 14:21, 15:10. Rom.13:9. 1Cor.7:19. Eph. 2:15. Col.2:22. 1John 2:3,3:22, 3:24, 5:2. 2John6. Rev.12:17, 14:12. All these a...

He later gave them all sorts of other commandments as well, but the point is, He introduced His covenant with the 10 Commandments. They were a basic summary or constitution, if you will, of the covenant. That is why 2 Cor. 3 can refer to them in a context which contrasts their ministry to that of t...

There is no Law EXCEPT THE 10 written by God's own finger. I'm not sure where you got that bold opinion, but apparently the Lord Jesus didn't agree. :-D Where and when did Christ deny the finger of God writing the 10? OK, I think I see the source of the confusion on this point at least. I took your...

Let us not forget that under this present age we are under Grace - Rest - and have entered a new Sabbath where everyday we are to live honoring God by our actions, words, and deeds. Absolutely--for all of us who have trusted Christ as our Savior, the Sabbath rest is now fulfilled. Far from belittli...

There is no Law EXCEPT THE 10 written by God's own finger. I'm not sure where you got that bold opinion, but apparently the Lord Jesus didn't agree. :-D When He was asked about the greatest commandment in the Law, he quoted one from Deuteronomy and one from Leviticus, neither of which were included...

I believe the Mosaic covenant (i.e., the OT law including all of the Ten Commandments) is "for" all of us in this general sense, but only directly applicable to the Jews who were living under it. And please don't accuse me of implying then it's alright to murder, steal, lie, etc., because...

What is it you say was the dividing line? It seems the "law" being spoken of here is circumcision...and not the decalogue. Of course Christ even says HImself, "The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath."...no Jew mentioned there. The Sabbath being part of the deca...

Wow, I see discussion on this topic has really picked up since I left it over a month ago. Well, since some additional points have been raised, I'll give my quick response, for anyone who may be interested in the non-sabbatarian point of view: With regard to the argument that the Decalogue (includin...

And the problem with arguing in circles is you always come back to the same place. Oh well, it's been instructive for me, and hopefully others as well. God bless!

Also, about the covenant between God and Israel "for all generations"- many people do not realize that WE ARE THE DESCENDANTS OF ANCIENT ISRAEL, so it would apply to us today. Highly doubtful, in my perhaps not-so-humble opinion. :D But more importantly, even if we were the physical desce...

This passage does not specify which commandments are to be kept, and which are not, so how are we as mere humans to say which should not be kept? That's the basic question on which this discussion hinges, all right. I'm not claiming it's always an easy one to answer, but that doesn't mean we should...

And one more verse from me before we end this discussion: Heb. 7:12 - "For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also." Yes, the NT makes it clear that the commandments which are moral in nature are still to be obeyed, not because they are part of t...