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by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:59 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 27376

Re: the need for a bible

What about the Europeans or the Chinese too? It states that all men were dispersed... Including the Jews. exaclty. according to their interpretations, God doesnt love them as much, either. I believe Moses was referring to the consequences of the father's sin being passed on to their children... To ...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:27 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

zoe, i think we've disconnected, or at least you're not understanding my stance. that must be my fault for being a sort of devil's advocate here...i dont think any of this, or the bible thing, is vital to salvation. that's just me, tho. i think you can believe you came from monkies and still believe...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:36 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

yeah. i cant really argue any of that. i dont know how much time is involved for macro v micro or the complexity or any of the rest of it. right now i see humanity in the pre-renaissance of evolutionary understanding. i think the giant leaps are yet to be made, which started my involvement on this p...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:13 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

And books still use the designations micro/macro evolution. This is still a research ongoing about how and what is needed and in what forms and rates speciation occurs. You cannot make such blanket generalizations. I shall find you some quotes from my books from grad school. all i'm saying is 70 ye...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:00 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

zebras do NOT know they are a different species, they do not know they are zebras. they might know they are different than a tree, different from a horse, Sleep, you haven't responded to my post. Species do recognize members of the same species, and in that regard, they DO know another zebra. Fish ...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:55 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

How is cancer macroevolution? It isn't one species changing to another. And for someone so deadset against evolution, of any kind, you just contradicted yourself, did you not? y:-? i'm not deadset against evolution. i believe in evolution. i dont put a caveat on it like 'micro' or 'macro' in order ...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:36 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 27376

Re: the need for a bible

More on Bible codes here: http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2104 can i ask about the bible code? what purpose does it serve? it doesnt do anything, you cant predict anything with it, and some of the 'truths' you find in it are not even proven as truth by history (oswald a...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 27376

Re: the need for a bible

I have no clue what you are talking about here.... How does the tower of Babel make God a racist? [/quote] i'm the one saying i dont see God as being racist. however i'm saying i have been told that God punishes people for the sin's of their ancestors, particularly rural africans. it goes like this,...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:04 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

No, of course they don't actually "know". God puts the instinct in them to stray away from kinds not their own. But this is not the case in bacteria and viruses that become resistant to medicine. this is exactly my point about cancer. cancer is macroevolution turbocharged, changing to dev...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:02 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

Sleep, Creationists, Old Earth and Young Earth, believe the Genesis account is literal and not a myth or metaphore. As such a significant factor is that the influence and work of a creator is not something that is purely scientifically observable and provable (although the ID movement of late is qu...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:43 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

Comprehend what? This is almost like saying that if you own a car then automatically you are going to have an accident....
i'm sorry but for the life of me i cant figure out what this is in regards to or what you mean.
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:41 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

I haven't been involved in this before, but I wanted to say a few things. Sleep, zebras and horses actually DO "know" that they are different species. Almost any animal knows the difference between its own kind and another kind, within the same type. For instance, horses and zebras are ba...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:18 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

furthermore, and i feel this is pretty big: uh the whole SPECIES deal is arbitrary and MADE UP. the only reason rats and bats are 'different species" is because scientists arbitrarily drew lines about what physiological this or thats will be called this or that. it's not like some RULE that na...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:05 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another challenge to Darwinists
Replies: 92
Views: 19176

Re: Another challenge to Darwinists

wow. all that, wow. i just saw a lot of people going from arguing againts evolution as anti-christian to arguing it's not necessarily antichristian, which is kind of all i've been trying to say. well, that, and that i think it's silly to deny evolution as a mechanism in nature (macro or micro or bbq...
by the sleep of reason
Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:51 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 27376

Re: the need for a bible

i had to take a break from all this to get some perspective. but i'm kind of back on the forum now. i have talked to some hebraic christian friends as well as read a little bit more on biblical history (of the text, not the history of the region as portrayed in the book itself.) i also saw a few int...