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by the sleep of reason
Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:49 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

Why on earth would someone base their belief predominantly upon their feelings? This seems particularly odd to me, especially when for example Paul said to test everything and hold onto the good. I see that such Christianity is often based on the whims and life experiences of the person. Once that ...
by the sleep of reason
Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:46 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

:mrgreen:
by the sleep of reason
Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:19 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

It seems that the whole point you are trying to make is that the God and the Bible is one big contradiction... This is not a new accusation at all... People have tried this many times... I'm not convinced you have. i'm not trying to make that point--i'm trying to make the point that maybe you can g...
by the sleep of reason
Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:05 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

"I know there are many Christians who say that all those who die without faith in Christ will be relegated to spend eternity in Hell - even if they have never heard the gospel. I think scripture suggests otherwise - that we are judged on the basis of what we know and how we act upon it. This i...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:39 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

Yes, but the words mean nothing if they don't live in your heart... That's the trick. Also do you not think that hindus, jews, muslims, unitarians have loving, charitable actions, kindness, or acts of godliness? Who are we to judge others? The message of Christ says that we are not to condemn other...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:23 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

I just wanted to give my opinion on one point, and then I'll leave. You say that Jesus' message was to repent and believe, so we could be saved, correct? Was this the ONLY message He came to tell? My belief is that He also came to tell of the coming Kingdom of God, which will happen in the very nea...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:08 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

that...is...astounding. what? REALLY? so you propose it's SAFER to trust what OTHER MEN tell us, that rather than say we know God for what's in our hearts we should double check with other people's doctrines? this is the biggest indication of putting your faith in men rather than God. am i wrong? I...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:06 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

So..? You could say these things a hundred times over... Is this all you think that makes someone a Christian? [/quote] here's an idea: why dont YOU tell ME what it means to be a christian. i already tried. your turn now. And what does it mean to be outside the acceptance of Christ? Black and white?...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

Why on earth would someone base their belief predominantly upon their feelings? This seems particularly odd to me The point I'm making is that the foundation of our confidence cannot be placed on the subjective side, because it's too easy to be misled by subjective elements. There must be something...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:57 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

that...is...astounding. what? REALLY? so you propose it's SAFER to trust what OTHER MEN tell us, that rather than say we know God for what's in our hearts we should double check with other people's doctrines? this is the biggest indication of putting your faith in men rather than God. am i wrong? I...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:21 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

If Christianity does not satisfy criticisms leveled against if by those of other positions whether secular or otherwise, then if fails at being as consistent. Now if someone sees Christianity failing to be consistent in many areas, people tend to automatically assume another position is correct by ...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 1:05 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

That is nice. I would just say they are wrong. I could state a better informed council, the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy (ICBI), in fact affirmed that an Old Earth is in fact compatible with an inerrant reading of Scripture. ah. but my point is valid: how does one know what doctrines...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:22 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

For those who have not heard of the Bible, it is Gods will to do with them as he will. He is a forgiving God and there probably is a way to get to Heaven without hearing about it. I only assume there is a way on the fact that God is a forgiving God. SO believing in the Holy Word of God, and believi...
by the sleep of reason
Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:09 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

I think we are making this way too difficult... We still haven't defined what Christianity is... Who is to say that someone is living more of a Christian life than another? Remember, we can't go by any labels. Even if someone says they are Christian, I believe it really doesn't mean anything... I b...
by the sleep of reason
Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:51 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: the need for a bible
Replies: 132
Views: 26877

Re: the need for a bible

all these links to all these other men's articles, it makes me think no one gets what i 'm saying here. i read them, but it's all the same stuff i've researched a trillion times already. i'm not a new christian or theologically uneducated n00b or something, i'm a life-long church goer, son of a peac...