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by tommyboy605182
Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:53 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell
Replies: 35
Views: 9603

Re: Hell

i agree that simply ceasing to exist would kind of remove the sense of justice from the concept. Then what is the point of our capital punishment? Don't we understand that putting a murderer to death is really doing nothing of "justice"? How is it then the families of their victims feel a...
by tommyboy605182
Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:20 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell
Replies: 35
Views: 9603

Re: Hell

But also... The concept of Oblivion - although comforting for some would mean there would be no true justice. For instance isn't this what the Athiest believes? They could in theory do what ever they want during their lives, be as selfish as they want, because in the end they face oblivion anyway. ...
by tommyboy605182
Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:15 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell
Replies: 35
Views: 9603

Re: Hell

Those verses don't suggest what you're suggesting. It says that unbelievers will expierience judgement in the same way that Sodom and Gomorrah did, I agree with this 100%. It does not however, suggest what your saying, that since Sodom and Gomorrah's punishment was temporary, Hell is temporary. Thu...
by tommyboy605182
Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:27 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell
Replies: 35
Views: 9603

Re: Hell

Burning forever would be MUCH worse than ceasing to exist. If you ceased to exist, you would not know that you had ceased to exist and it wouldn't be torment at all. In revelations, its pretty clear that the "burning" will not cease. I think its sort of wishful thinking that since Sodom a...
by tommyboy605182
Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:38 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Hell
Replies: 35
Views: 9603

Hell

i've been thinking about the concept of 'hell' a lot lately, for a couple reasons... first of all, im sick of hearing and seeing other christians pull out the "hell card" so to speak, when they are trying to share and justify their faith to others. telling someone they should believe in Ch...
by tommyboy605182
Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Old Testament and history
Replies: 11
Views: 2604

The Old Testament and history

I was hoping to come across a discussion about the historical accounts of the OT vs. proven history, but i couldn't find one. i have always been a believer in biblical inerrancy; however, it seems that more and more people are out to disprove that by bringing up the fact that history "proves&qu...
by tommyboy605182
Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:49 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinity
Replies: 7
Views: 2384

Re: Infinity

tommyboy605182, Oh, and by the way causation requires that the branes have a beginning so the argument just gets shifted. i agree that the whole theory sounds very bizarre. i also agree that there must eventually be a beginning, even if physicists manage to push it back billions or trillions of yea...
by tommyboy605182
Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:43 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinity
Replies: 7
Views: 2384

Re: Infinity

just wondering if anybody could provide me with some reading material on the concept of infinity; evidence for and against an infinite regress? i read that theories on loop quantum gravity show that there is evidence of a prior universe contracting before the big bang. however, the evidence also so...
by tommyboy605182
Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:03 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Is ID non-scientific because it has relgious implications?
Replies: 299
Views: 60765

Re: Is ID non-scientific because it has relgious implications?

i didn't read this entire thread, so ill just respond to the initial question. i don't think ID has religious implications if it is taught right; i don't think schools should teach ID in the strict creationism sense. the word "creationism" brings up too many images and implications of a 60...
by tommyboy605182
Sun Dec 30, 2007 4:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinity
Replies: 7
Views: 2384

Infinity

just wondering if anybody could provide me with some reading material on the concept of infinity; evidence for and against an infinite regress? i read that theories on loop quantum gravity show that there is evidence of a prior universe contracting before the big bang. however, the evidence also som...
by tommyboy605182
Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:57 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinite universe?
Replies: 24
Views: 7679

Re: Infinite universe?

my question is, is there any true PROOF against an ageless universe? Yes...it's called the Big Bang Theory, which says the Universe came into being at a past time via an 'external causal agent'. The 2K background radiation predicted by the Big Bang Theory was confirmed in the early 1990's. yes, i u...
by tommyboy605182
Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:37 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinite universe?
Replies: 24
Views: 7679

Re: Infinite universe?

The assumption that energy was timeless would only apply if the conditions that make it appear so in the context of this present universe were constant and remained so within what ever parallel or previous universes or multiverses. You cannot prove a negative in this realm so the onus would be upon...
by tommyboy605182
Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:49 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinite universe?
Replies: 24
Views: 7679

Infinite universe?

first of all hello to everyone, i'm new here. i am glad i found this board, i recently became very interested in cosmology after reading the book "Show Me God" by Fred Heeren. my question is, is there any true PROOF against an ageless universe? i have been involved in a debate with an athe...