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by Robert Byers
Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:00 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

The fall of man into death is so self evident what can you say. Your trying to say adam could of died physically and gone to heaven.. Well then eve has problems. I'm lost too... We are saying that Adam died spiritually not physically... Yes it was the spiritual death also but because Adam was too d...
by Robert Byers
Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:56 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

Bavarianwheels Not just man but all living things with breath or spirit. No animals or insects could die before the fall. They were perfect in a perfect world. Death was brought by mans rebellion and not a natural thing. The bible is clear animals only ate plants implying they would not eat each oth...
by Robert Byers
Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:41 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Oldest known human fossil found in Europe
Replies: 96
Views: 23465

Re: Oldest known human fossil found in Europe

First things first. Is it human. Find a full skelton. A female. If it shows the female had pain or would giving birth, because of configuration of bone, then its human. These things are so un provable anything can be said.
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by Robert Byers
Mon Mar 31, 2008 9:36 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Article on Accelerated Evolution rates
Replies: 26
Views: 6048

Re: Article on Accelerated Evolution rates

The biggest point in science is always why if a new idea has come WAS the old idea wrong. Why was the science backing it up , wrong? Why did the original tests or attempts to falsify fail? Was there any science to begin with? Since it was wrong and since creationism said it was wrong then creationis...
by Robert Byers
Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:10 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

There was no problem of overpopulation. God clearly indicares until the fall all folks would live forever. "The scriptural objections to the idea that Adam was created immortal are actually stronger than the scientific objections. First, before Adam sinned, God warned him not to eat of the fru...
by Robert Byers
Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:50 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

There was no problem of overpopulation. God clearly indicares until the fall all folks would live forever. Therefore we can conclude that if earth got too small then we could colonize space. We could make our own flora/fauna on planets and by by this time we would not be comminicating from countries...
by Robert Byers
Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:13 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

The whole concept of scripture is that the fall brought death and groaning of nature. Genesis does not c;early say there was no death before the fall but it is greatly implied in Genesuis and all scripture leads to this conclusion. I would also add there could be no evidence of death before the fall...
by Robert Byers
Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:03 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Mount Everest and the Age of the earth
Replies: 49
Views: 11068

Re: Mount Everest and the Age of the earth

Mt Everest shows that it came to be because of the colliding continents. This is fine with YEC. We would only say the collision happened during the flood year. The continents separated during the flood year and much of earths geography can be explained from this. The bible puts boundaries on things ...
by Robert Byers
Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:52 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

I'm still waiting for somone to answer the original question of pointing to the Scripture where the claim of a "perfect" creation before the fall is established. It has always been interpretated by Christianity that when God says good it means perfect. We know there was no death of living...
by Robert Byers
Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:46 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

What about those flesh-ripping teeth found in the earth that when we put the pieces back together seem to indicate some flesh-eating species? These teeth are from creatures that lived after the fall. These creatures in fact owe their fossilization to the actions of the flood. They were swept up or ...
by Robert Byers
Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:06 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

What about those flesh-ripping teeth found in the earth that when we put the pieces back together seem to indicate some flesh-eating species? These teeth are from creatures that lived after the fall. These creatures in fact owe their fossilization to the actions of the flood. They were swept up or ...
by Robert Byers
Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:03 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

There was no death before the fall and plenty after. this is clear by the whole concept of death and it uglines. Why did God reduce the age of humanity? Without physical death, greater ugliness would abound. Ultimately I see it comes down to God never intended our physical world He created to be pe...
by Robert Byers
Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:13 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

For me, it becomes a question of design. We love, as creationists, to wax poetic about the beautiful design of God';s creations. We point out the animals that were desgined for their eating habits. Canines, etc. But this implies either a faulty design (God created animals with sharp teeth, shorter ...
by Robert Byers
Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:07 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

There was no death before the fall and plenty after. this is clear by the whole concept of death and it uglines. All creatures ate plants as this was clearly said. nothing else was said and if this is Gods word then there would be no mistake. Blood was not shed until God make clocks for Adam/eve. C...
by Robert Byers
Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:49 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" article
Replies: 94
Views: 33489

Re: A response to the "No Death Before the Fall" artic

There was no death before the fall and plenty after. this is clear by the whole concept of death and it uglines. All creatures ate plants as this was clearly said. nothing else was said and if this is Gods word then there would be no mistake. Blood was not shed until God make clocks for Adam/eve. Co...