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by Shulgin
Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:10 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

OK, lets try a different tact. Do you believe that the bible is all true? If so, there's much to answer for in the OT (murder, slaves, incest, yadda yadda). If not, then doesn't that cast a huge shadow of doubt on the authenticity of Jesus/god? BTW I've read Strobel and the crew. They offer no cred...
by Shulgin
Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:02 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

Shulgin, the Bible does not say the world is 6,000 years old. This very website is founded on that principal. If this was one of your stumbling blocks to seeing the truth it's just been removed. Like FFC suggested, why don't you look at the evidence presented by the very people who made it their mi...
by Shulgin
Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:52 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

OK, lets try a different tact. Do you believe that the bible is all true? If so, there's much to answer for in the OT (murder, slaves, incest, yadda yadda). If not, then doesn't that cast a huge shadow of doubt on the authenticity of Jesus/god? BTW I've read Strobel and the crew. They offer no cred...
by Shulgin
Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:38 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

OK, lets try a different tact. Do you believe that the bible is all true? If so, there's much to answer for in the OT (murder, slaves, incest, yadda yadda). If not, then doesn't that cast a huge shadow of doubt on the authenticity of Jesus/god? Yes and no (respectively). So yes you think every word...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:48 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

OK, lets try a different tact. Do you believe that the bible is all true? If so, there's much to answer for in the OT (murder, slaves, incest, yadda yadda). If not, then doesn't that cast a huge shadow of doubt on the authenticity of Jesus/god? BTW I've read Strobel and the crew. They offer no credi...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:39 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
Replies: 15
Views: 4900

Re: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

Byblos wrote:Shulgin, I copied the above post and sent it to the other thread (authenticity of the Bible) where it's more appropriate. Please go there to continue the discussion.
Thanks Byblos!
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:15 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
Replies: 15
Views: 4900

Re: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

Byblos, Any shred of evidence would be nice. Perhaps a bible that was actually, truly, really written by god and not his fallible followers on earth. Real evidence for the divine nature of Jesus outside of the bible would be nice. C'mon now Byblos, use your imagination as to what kind of evidence o...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:44 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 38299

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

At the end of the movie Richard Dawkins was interviewed. It seemed like he couldn't even justify his arguments for God's non-existence. Ben Stein asked him what the probablity was that God didn't exist and Dawkins responded with a 99.9% probability, but it seemed like he didn't know how to defend t...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:34 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 38299

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

It may be chemical reactions, but we believe God made those chemical reactions. He is the creator and source of all things, whether it's your digestive system or altruistic behavior. Get that from the bible did ya? So you take the creation story literally? So god sat down at his drawing board and d...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:26 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 38299

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Oh Boy, The comments are typical of what I would have expected. The bottom line is that its not only the evolutionists that have a hard time explaining things, such as altruistic love, so do theologists. The evolutionists tho mostly progress based on fact and experimentation. With that in mind its v...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:42 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

Byblos, Again, the evidence is solely in the bible, a dubious document to be sure. You use intellectually honest in your note. Do you think proof is in a document written 2000 years ago that is certainly not directly from the mouth of god. I think to be intellectually honest you have to eliminate fa...
by Shulgin
Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:25 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
Replies: 15
Views: 4900

Re: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

Byblos, Any shred of evidence would be nice. Perhaps a bible that was actually, truly, really written by god and not his fallible followers on earth. Real evidence for the divine nature of Jesus outside of the bible would be nice. C'mon now Byblos, use your imagination as to what kind of evidence on...
by Shulgin
Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 38299

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Gman, What in the heck are you talking about??!! You have to believe in a god to love? That's absurd. Of course you are made of chemical reactions, how else do you think you survive. Try not eating and see how long your chemical reactions continue. Are you trying to say that you don't need your chem...
by Shulgin
Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:13 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: The Authencity of the Bible.
Replies: 96
Views: 27797

Re: The Authencity of the Bible.

The Bible and much reliable church history indicates that 11 of the 12 disciples of Jesus died violent martyrs deaths, several of them, might have avoided it by recanting or denying Christ. Why do you think these men would die for a novel or fiction, given that they were with Christ and better posi...
by Shulgin
Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:03 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible
Replies: 15
Views: 4900

Re: Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible

I was raised as a catholic and taught the bible is 'god-breathed' and infallible. I am curious, do you believe everything in the bible? Is it all true? I used to think that until I started reading it as a historical document rather than a religious tome and I feel quite differently now. It was obvio...