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by SaintConfused
Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:06 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Foreshadowing?
Replies: 21
Views: 7239

Re: Foreshadowing?

FL, The problem here is that Saint Confused is asking questions whose answers are spiritually understood and perceived. Do you have concrete answers for my questions? please no Ad Homs. Attack my arguments and not the ' fact' that I lack belief in the NT or have no ' spiritual understanding and per...
by SaintConfused
Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:59 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Foreshadowing?
Replies: 21
Views: 7239

Re: Foreshadowing?

csl, write some specific examples (verses) related to what you're asking . Then we can deal with those in whatever fashion . Here is a prophecy regarding the role of the Messiah : Jeremiah 23:5-6 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shal...
by SaintConfused
Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:34 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Foreshadowing?
Replies: 21
Views: 7239

Re: Foreshadowing?

csl , I really don't think you are confused about anything . I still have no idea about 'foreshadowing' , THAT does confuse me. 1.How is it applied? 2.What is and isn't 'prophecy' regarding Jesus? 3.What purpose do these 'foreshadowings' have while not coming from the prophets themselves? This is t...
by SaintConfused
Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:50 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Foreshadowing?
Replies: 21
Views: 7239

Re: Foreshadowing?

csl , Well, regarding Psalm 41:9 , Jesus himself quoted it ( John 13:18 ). The psalms aren't from the prophets , unless I missed something when the ' foreshadowing' began that concluded on agreement that the Psalmist is also a prophet(?). When is quoting something, a fulfillment of it? by that atte...
by SaintConfused
Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:23 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My stance; should I know about others?
Replies: 25
Views: 7563

Re: My stance; should I know about others?

csl , So would both of you, and whoever else , say that evolution (as a tool ) works on it's own, basically, but God directs it when he wants (or wanted) to create new species? Working on it's own is self-direction , Speciation brings forth ' new species' out of already existing ones (this is why c...
by SaintConfused
Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:11 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My stance; should I know about others?
Replies: 25
Views: 7563

Re: My stance; should I know about others?

Cactus , god can bend/break the rules at any moment. I'm not denying that . God is above and below the 'rules ' at the same time. if the rules are defined by god then they can easily be modified by god . Aside from speculation, we can't be sure what defines the ' rules ' other than the universe bei...
by SaintConfused
Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:42 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My stance; should I know about others?
Replies: 25
Views: 7563

Re: My stance; should I know about others?

I relegate evolution to the simple status of ' tool' , however you would expect god's tool to be far more worth understanding than one made by human hands, god makes the rules of the universe not us ! Evolution doesn't claim that only we ' make ' the rules of the universe. It wasn't 'made' by human...
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:11 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My stance; should I know about others?
Replies: 25
Views: 7563

Re: My stance; should I know about others?

zoegirl , Most importantly I dislike the term when it includes the idea that God just started everything and let it go . This is why God's omnipresence and Jesus' 'Second Coming' are around, I guess. I don't understand why you dislike it though, it's not too far different from the usual daily activ...
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:53 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My stance; should I know about others?
Replies: 25
Views: 7563

Re: My stance; should I know about others?

Cactus , Now lets just say that many people think evolution is what made EVERYTHING . Evolution isn't Abiogenesis, there's a distinct difference between the biological changes and the origin of biological life . Those ' many people ' would be lying too themselves with a serious misunderstanding. It...
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:44 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Logical Outworking of Morals
Replies: 16
Views: 6299

Re: Logical Outworking of Morals

B.W. , Everyone can agree that murder — premeditated murder - is a moral wrong but however it becomes justified as a noble right when it comes to the matter of abortion. I find nothing nobly ' right ' about abortion. In fact, I'd have to say it happens mostly due to a lack of responsibility and com...
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:30 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Foreshadowing?
Replies: 21
Views: 7239

Foreshadowing?

1. What is the objective purpose in claiming some verses as prophecy about Jesus when they aren't even originated from the prophets themselves? 2. How do we recognize the difference between the actual-messianic prophecies and the foreshadowing -substitute prophecies? 3. Why defend the foreshadowing...
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:59 pm
Forum: New Page Critiques
Topic: The Hope of Atheism and Humanism: The Ultimate Fate of...
Replies: 36
Views: 19018

Re: The Hope of Atheism and Humanism: The Ultimate Fate of...

Cactus wrote:in case you was wondering...you are allowed to agree (or disagree) with anyone. We don't have any mind control powers. :lol:
I didn't state that anyone has 'mind control powers'.
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:32 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Logical Outworking of Morals
Replies: 16
Views: 6299

Re: Logical Outworking of Morals

Cross.eyed , It makes sense that God would ' implant ' a moral code into everyone. God purposefully implanted these ' moral codes ' to conflict against each other constantly? It's 'logical', yet it still makes little too no sense. Wonderful. I actually think, in the absence of this ' moral code ' g...
by SaintConfused
Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:39 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Logical Outworking of Morals
Replies: 16
Views: 6299

Re: Logical Outworking of Morals

rodyshusband , If a Christian is not living a moral lifestyle , this would indeed be hypocritical . Not quiet, as the ' moral lifestyle ' itself needs to be observed as a goal and/or daily routine of morality . By this method, a Christian would think-before-acting against a non-Christian individual...
by SaintConfused
Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:57 am
Forum: New Page Critiques
Topic: The Hope of Atheism and Humanism: The Ultimate Fate of...
Replies: 36
Views: 19018

Re: The Hope of Atheism and Humanism: The Ultimate Fate of...

Cross.eyed If all the universe came by random chance , what would there be to hope for? All the universe . The answer is in you're own question, imagine that. ' Chance ' isn't random, but it's also not too common either. There is a high ' chance ' it's going to rain again tomorrow, does this make t...