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by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:49 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

https://s23.postimg.org/41vor1mo7/2017_01_01_1753.png none of this has explained anything, especially on what exactly the trinity is to you. you say God is 3-in-1, but have yet to explain in any clear manner exactly how this is. i have heard nothing but analogies, like apples, oranges, and now a pb...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:48 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: David and Goliath
Replies: 2
Views: 1759

Re: David and Goliath

Gladwell simply doesn't know what he's talking about, and the book in question was rightly and widely panned by critics. Here's a sample review you might want to look at:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014240 ... 0254007968
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:38 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

you say that God did not make Himself mortal, even if He wanted to. So you are saying Christ was not mortal, nor did He die? No, I'm not. If God could not forsake Himself, then who was Christ speaking to when He said "My God, why have you forsaken Me"? Jesus was speaking to the Father. I ...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

https://s23.postimg.org/41vor1mo7/2017_01_01_1753.png none of this has explained anything, especially on what exactly the trinity is to you. you say God is 3-in-1, but have yet to explain in any clear manner exactly how this is. i have heard nothing but analogies, like apples, oranges, and now a pb...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:55 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

ok, you say that there is one being split into three parts. explain to me how does 1/3 of one being separate itself from itself, change form and composition, die, and then resurrect itself and then rejoin itself? and, in Genesis does God talk to Himself? and again, if this is not what you mean by 3...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:16 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

Jac: And when we look at God, we realize that there are some beings (God) that are more than one Person. No - perhaps a niggling point, but there is only ONE rational being that has more than one person within it: God! There is no other rational being that consists of multiple persons. But yes, ver...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 6:06 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

ok, you say that there is one being split into three parts. explain to me how does 1/3 of one being separate itself from itself, change form and composition, die, and then resurrect itself and then rejoin itself? and, in Genesis does God talk to Himself? and again, if this is not what you mean by 3...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 3:10 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

That's fair, Rick. Jenna, I said above that monotheism isn't merely the belief that there is one kind of thing called "God" of which there are several beings--i.e., two beings (The Father and the Son) that are both individuals of this "kind" of thing. But let me offer a defense o...
by Jac3510
Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:26 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

Jenna's position does not entail polytheism. Her position is polytheism. Her position entails atheism. If jenna claims monotheism, it is only because she misdefines monotheism Jenna, do you understand the definition of monotheism is that there is only one being who is God? The moment you have more t...
by Jac3510
Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:58 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

Sure, I think it's clear that whatever our resurrection bodies will be like, they won't be composed exactly like our current bodies. There will obviously be some matter involved. You see what Jesus does, including eating. But He also does a lot that we can't do. John says we don't know what we will ...
by Jac3510
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:52 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

BTW, one more point for those following: I know Byblos conceded the language about God being "formless," and he defined what he means by that ("the form is visible or can be felt"), but strictly, it is incorrect to say that God is formless. And I'm not correcting Byblos. He knows...
by Jac3510
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:48 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

what i am trying to say here is that it is possible for spirit to have form, but still be immaterial. another analogy would be a hologram. maybe a bad comparison, idk, but it has form and shape that you can see, but it is still immaterial. That's a contradiction in terms. By definition the immateri...
by Jac3510
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:45 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

If God, as you assert, is formless, why did He speak of a face, back, and hands when Moses asked to see what He looked like?] You tell me. We're talking about the Father now. You said his face, back, and hands when talking to Moses belonged to the Son. So when did the Father speak to Moses face to ...
by Jac3510
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:17 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Understanding the Trinity
Replies: 897
Views: 159195

Re: Understanding the Trinity

I don't think that answer fits the conversation. Notice: Byblos: God is not visible unless one is in heaven in the presence of the beatific vision. Jenna: If God cannot be seen, please explain the verses where Moses saw God? John: "No one has seen God" Jenna: No, no one has seen the Father...