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- Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:09 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Trinity in the Qur'an?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6564
Re: Trinity in the Qur'an?
To your point, C2, Islam itself is not moderate. Moderate Muslims exist only to the point that they either are ignorant of their faith or they simply disregard those aspects they find repugnant. It's not that different from a lot of Christians of any denominations. Some reject basic teachings out of...
- Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:58 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
Just to be nitpicky, I don't think Paul is saying that the sin we inherit is death. I think Paul is saying is that, just like Adam died for his sin, so, too, we die for ours: For just as sin entered the world by one man, and death through sin; in the same way death spreads to all people, because all...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Understanding the Trinity
- Replies: 897
- Views: 166297
Re: Understanding the Trinity
i find it rather odd that first you agreed that i understood it, but now that i have shown you the error FROM YOUR OWN WORDS, all of a sudden it's like "oh no, you must have misunderstood what i said, go look at this or that." *sigh* Jenna, Rick is right. You are not critiquing the Trinit...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Trinity in the Qur'an?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6564
Re: Trinity in the Qur'an?
I'm a bit more optimistic, but maybe just in denial. But I have two reasons for my optimism. The first is theological. I just don't see that happening. Yes, Israel was sent into exile from time to time, and God threatens to judge individual churches in the NT, but I just don't see any reason whatsoe...
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:42 pm
- Forum: Politics and World Events
- Topic: Europe Will Soon Be...
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1321
Re: Europe Will Soon Be...
Na uh. I found TWO true things:edwardmurphy wrote:Literally nothing in your last post was true.
1. "The USA is divided"
2. "insulting cartoon"
Carry on.
- Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:05 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Trinity in the Qur'an?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 6564
Re: Trinity in the Qur'an?
What you are missing is that Islam denies the distinct pershood of each. Where? I thought I was off to a good start with this one, Byblos? The author of the Qur'an does not mention the Trinity as defined by Christians; he only says "don't say three, which in context seems to suggest don't say ...
- Sat Jan 14, 2017 6:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
I am posting from my phone so it's difficult to reply properly but I will later. Suffice it say, no Jac, your including domestic animals in the implication doesn't work at all for the simple reason that salvation was offered to humans exclusively. Otherwise you'd have to include them regardless whe...
- Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:52 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
That's all nothing but a non sequitur. I have not defended nor do I intend to defend infant baptism. But to answer your last question, as Jac stated, it first starts with whether or not a case can be made for original sin. If original sin is biblical, then infant baptism is most definitely a grace ...
- Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:50 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
There is no reason whatsoever to think infants are merely permissisble and not implied, other than reading your own theology into the text. Of course, you can turn around and charge me with the same and that's fair. The fact remains, households of the time typically included several generations and...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:30 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
She is correct that we don't find children being baptized in Scripture, and Acts 16 is no exception to that. No she isn't correct simply because while Acts 16 doesn't explicitly state it, it doesn't definitively rule it out either. The most she can say is that infant baptism is not explicitly state...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:57 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
Great point! That fact alone, is enough to toss away the doctrine of the Trinity.* Amen, brother! In fact, let's just get rid of all doctrines not used explicitly by name in Scripture, including but not limited to: 1. "The Divinity of Christ" 2. "The Hypostatic Union" 3. "T...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:15 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
That's fine. I could have misunderstood your logic. When you said, "So when entire households were baptized, are we to assume there were never any infants there?" I took that to be an argument that Scripture does have children being baptized. If I'm predisposed to misread you on that point...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:42 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
-- a person does Not find children being baptized in Scripture. So when entire households were baptized, are we to assume there were never any infants there? We're neither to assume that there were or that there were not. You don't build a doctrine on what is unstated. My point exactly. And I hope ...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:38 pm
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: Infant Baptism
- Replies: 61
- Views: 20742
Re: Infant Baptism
-- a person does Not find children being baptized in Scripture. So when entire households were baptized, are we to assume there were never any infants there? We're neither to assume that there were or that there were not. You don't build a doctrine on what is unstated. I'm thinking that since Bibli...
- Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:43 pm
- Forum: Politics and World Events
- Topic: Is this where we have arrived?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6038
Re: Is this where we have arrived?
I bet Rick has a file on all the members here and their trigger words.