Evidence for God from Science

You have got to be joking. Danny, Read Isaiah 1. Pay close attention to the words "Call", "Reason", "Consent", and "Obey" Who is God talking to? Look at the tenet of T in TULIP It does not compute. Abort, retry, fail? Respond. Thank you Tu quoque fallacy Not ...

Bit late with this - sorry. Frank Turek interviews William Lane Craig at Southern Evangelical Seminary’s National Conference on Christian Apologetics. Dr. Craig speaks on his experience with the Reasonable Faith tour in the UK. http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=9184

Danny, again. Would love a response here. Total depravity (total inability) and Isaiah 1 Can you please explain Total depravity when God calls the sinful and unregenerate man to reason with him and asks for their consent to obey him in Isaiah 1? Thank you Also, charging the discussing of biblical d...

Danny, in this thread, I did. My point was that if there's no choice by man, then it's not real love. Then you need to show that there is no real choice by man. I haven’t seen that demonstrated, so have no idea why you are saying it. I agree, as long as "all" means something different tha...

Bart, with all due respect, you're bringing up a separate conversation we had, and again you've misrepresented the whole thing. I did name the book (go and check the thread) as being Five Leading Reformers by Christopher Catherwood, and gave you a page number. Now since we're talking about a complet...

God's not on trial. Calvinism is. Trying to switch the point being made that Calvinism presents God as the author of evil is a very different point from stating that God is the author of evil. It's an emotional appeal and it misrepresents the argument by representing that God moral character depend...

Not sure about the "no matter how badly they want to believe" part, J. If John wants to believe then John believes; what is holding him back? Unconditional Election and Irresistable Grace. A five point Cal is going to either hold to TULIP or not. Totally agree. That's why I'm a fully-fled...

Ahh, look at everyone waving at eachother. This is nice

Danny, I certainly don't expect you to agree with me. But, I would hope that you would at least make an effort to listen to what I'm saying, before you disagree. I know at times, I don't properly convey my thoughts. But, in this case, I think I was perfectly clear, on where I stand. God doesn't hav...

Danny I think that is a good question. However, I think you wrongly assume that a non-Calvanist has to hold to universalism. I'm not assuming that, J. I'm saying unless the non-Calvinist wants to hold to universalism, then he too is faced with a God who creates people He knows full well will end up...

RickD wrote: DannyM wrote:Just to add to this. Unless the non-Calvinist wants to hold to universalism, you have a God who knowingly creates people who will go to hell no matter what He does to try and save them. They cannot not go there since God's knowledge of their destiny is infallible. And yet ...

Murray wrote:

DannyM wrote:Any Calvin Churches in existence?

Sure!!! There's a nice little calvinist chruch in westborough

I'm afraid that's not a Calvinist church

Not at all, Rick. But if you wish to pursue this line of thought then you are faced with the same problem. On your view, God created people knowing full well that they would end up in hell for eternity. By creating them God effectively damned them. There’s no escaping it. My apologies for butting i...

Just to add to this. Unless the non-Calvinist wants to hold to universalism, you have a God who knowingly creates people who will go to hell no matter what He does to try and save them. They cannot not go there since God's knowledge of their destiny is infallible. And yet He proceeds to create anyw...