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- Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:20 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
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Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
They are not fallen precisely because they were never condemned. As you rightly quote Romans 5:18, condemnation came into the world through one trespass and one man. How does this condemnation carry over to all men of all ages? Through the lineage of this one man. Anyone who is not a direct descend...
- Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:43 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
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Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
Danny, It most certainly is a view that runs counter to Christian orthodoxy, which is based on the understanding that ALL humans are descendants of Adam and Eve and, by extension, ALL are fallen. If there were a race that is not from that lineage, the implications are profound. 1) They are not fall...
- Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:28 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: A Theological Wrinkle
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6888
Re: A Theological Wrinkle
But what if you loved your spouse dearly like you say, and they die? And then you marry someone else, and love them just as dearly? What then?? I imagine that we will have close relationships in heaven with those we had close relationships to here. Why not? But they can't be the same, because of th...
- Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:34 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Why?
- Replies: 152
- Views: 36756
Re: Why?
Dan - Sorry to take so long in getting back to you. I've started typing a response a few times and deleted it. If it's ok with you I think I would like to drop this for a bit. I think I have a decent idea of your stance and it has given me lots to think about. I work slowly and I'm thinking taking ...
- Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:20 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 22304
Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
As far as your treatment of the evidence I put forward, I'll only respond to one, especially in light of your last sentence. The linguistic comments on harag that you wrote of as "invented" show, again, your underappreciation of exegesis and linguistics more generally. Here is a word stud...
- Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:40 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 22304
Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
OK, if I understand you correctly, your contention is that because God put a mark on Cain as opposed to issuing a verbal decree to the people that Cain feared, those people must therefore not be siblings of Cain. If this is accurate, then not only is it a non sequitur, but it also creates contradic...
- Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:30 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: A Theological Wrinkle
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6888
Re: A Theological Wrinkle
Jesus said, ""You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." Matt. 20:29-30 I take your point, and we see this too in Mark 12:25 where Jesus ...
- Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:32 am
- Forum: Christian Theology
- Topic: A Theological Wrinkle
- Replies: 33
- Views: 6888
A Theological Wrinkle
Our Christian position is that husband and wife are "one flesh". So what happens at death if one chooses salvation and the other rejects it? Wouldn't God keep the husband and wife together? I know that husband and wife are not "one mind" but, if the spirit is eternal, then what o...
- Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:14 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 22304
Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
Why should we believe that God talked to everyone? Are we to assume that every single person born, God would appear to them at a certain age and say, "Oh, yeah, and don't kill Cain"? For someone who likes to complain about "assuming" siblings, you sure do make a lot of assumptio...
- Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:13 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 22304
Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
If you were sent to the land of Nod for fear of reprisals from your siblings for killing your brother, would you need a mark on your forehead for them to be able to regognise you? Surely not? Your brothers and sisters know you because...well...they are your brothers and sisters. God would simply sa...
- Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:13 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 22304
Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
It doesn't say the mark was so that they would recognize him. It was a mark to prove that God had made the command not to kill him. If Cain just said to his siblings "No, you can't kill me. God said so," how would they know he was telling the truth? God provided the mark to confirm it.? O...
- Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:21 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
- Replies: 80
- Views: 22304
Re: Did God create others after Adam and Eve?
[quote="DannyM] If you were sent to the land of Nod for fear of reprisals from your siblings for killing your brother, would you need a mark on your forehead for them to be able to regognise you? Surely not? Your brothers and sisters know you because...well...they are your brothers and sisters....
- Thu Sep 17, 2009 7:25 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Why?
- Replies: 152
- Views: 36756
Re: Why?
This is it, Jac - I have debated many atheists who cite their "non-belief" or "non-theism" to save any burden being put upon themselves in an argument. This simply will not do. A "non-belief", as you say, is simply agnosticism. Atheism is a firm committment to the none...
- Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:14 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Why?
- Replies: 152
- Views: 36756
Re: Why?
Bottom line: atheism is not a lack of belief in God. That is agnosticism. For all modern atheists arguments, they are simply wrong on this by the definition of the word. If you don't have a belief one way or the other, you are a soft-agnostic, not an atheist. This is it, Jac - I have debated many a...
- Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:02 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Why?
- Replies: 152
- Views: 36756
Re: Why?
Danny cheers for the reply, I suspect we may have to agree to disagree though. For me knowing and believing are different, although they do cover a lot of similar ground. You know that God exists and you believe that God exists. Believing in something is different, to me, from knowing something. Th...