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by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:53 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus
Replies: 238
Views: 51709

Re: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus

Chimps are our 1st cousins, gorillas are our 2nd cousins, and orangutans are our 3rd cousins. Every time you visit the zoo's ape house, you're really attending a close family reunion. How cool is that! Genetically speaking, which race is the most evolved? And, would it be OK to capture one of the l...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:32 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus
Replies: 238
Views: 51709

Re: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus

Ah, OK. The arguments are dissimilar because you're comparing the wrong things. The probability of any given ERV insertion happening is low (calculably so as we know the number of possible insertion points as well as the size of the insertions), but the probability of a particular ERV assertion happ...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:07 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus
Replies: 238
Views: 51709

Re: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus

Byblos wrote: So the odds of ERVs (assuming they are indeed ERVs to begin with) inserting at the same points in two unrelated species are not that astronomical after all, are they?
I'm not sure I follow you...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:54 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus
Replies: 238
Views: 51709

Re: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus

Putting aside the validity of such argument (which I don't necessarily disagree with by the way), I would like to know if you or IgoFan view the odds of there being a life-producing planet in a universe otherwise hostile to life as virtually nil and what that says about it. Ah, got ya. Facetiously ...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:44 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus
Replies: 238
Views: 51709

Re: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus

I think Igo's point was that, although there's nothing physically stopping ERVs impacting all ape species individually, that's much less likely than it being the result of shared ancestry (especially when taking into account how the set of shared ERVs between any 2 species matches the supposed order...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:19 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus
Replies: 238
Views: 51709

Re: Ardi - Ardipithecus ramidus

Byblos wrote: The odds for the fine-tuning of the universe are infinitely less than that. Would you take those odds? If not, why not.
Fine-tuning in what sense?
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:50 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: New interpretation of creation
Replies: 9
Views: 1837

Re: New interpretation of creation

...the misunderstanding arose from the traditional translation of the word 'bara' which, he claims, does not mean 'to create' but to 'move the chest of drawers out a bit because it could easily have fallen down the back'.
I nearly choked when I read that bit!
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: New interpretation of creation
Replies: 9
Views: 1837

Re: New interpretation of creation

Lol yes, I only just realised that that section existed. Oh well.
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: New interpretation of creation
Replies: 9
Views: 1837

Re: New interpretation of creation

They're satire sites, with completely overblown articles. So for example one of them recently carried an article all about how Neil Armstrong was convince the moon landing was a hoax, because he'd read a conspiracy theory website.
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:28 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: New interpretation of creation
Replies: 9
Views: 1837

Re: New interpretation of creation

Gabrielman wrote::ermm: There's no way I can take that article seriously.... sorry dude, but really?
Lol no, the Daily Mash is the English equivalent of The Onion, if you're familiar with it?
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:46 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 19353

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Faith is the belief in God purely based on what the bible say about the creation of our universe and man; and man has a soul, is born with the original sin. It involves the mental acceptance of and the conviction in the truth, the validity of the bible without any proof. Not quite. Faith allows for...
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Atheists and Youtube, what is the deal?
Replies: 68
Views: 18339

Re: Atheists and Youtube, what is the deal?

Very well put, zoegirl :clap: There's a hell of a lot of knee-jerk videos on youtube, full of poorly thought-out ramblings. But there aren't many topics that you can't find decent videos about, as long as you do a bit of digging. Any thoughts on derrick09's point that there might be a tendency for a...
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:39 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Atheists and Youtube, what is the deal?
Replies: 68
Views: 18339

Re: Atheists and Youtube, what is the deal?

No problem, I'm quite glad to see you are not the type of atheists that I was referring to, I guess I'm so accustomed to those kind that I thought you were one of them. But anyway, I apologize, I personally wish more message board could be like this one since thus far from my perspective it is a wh...
by touchingcloth
Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:14 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Atheists and Youtube, what is the deal?
Replies: 68
Views: 18339

Re: Atheists and Youtube, what is the deal?

Hi again Derrick I know what you mean about thread hijacking - you see it a lot on message boards where both faith and science are discussed. Often when certain hot-button topics are brought up the thread will degenerate into both sides essentially shouting "but you're so stupid! I'm right, you...