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by touchingcloth
Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:57 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Do you mean, have faith? Does a German Shephard's head look like a bulldogs? No. We can test and observe variation within a species. This isn't proof of anything, other than variation. What proof would I need. Rock solid proof of brand NEW genetic information. Well you've seen the new genetic infor...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

I'd like you all to try a little thought experiment...bear with me: Accept, temporarily, the proposition that evolution is true and that every living thing shares a common ancestor. Now take an example such as the Pod mcraru lizards and assume we have the ability to monitor one of them and its offsp...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 4:16 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49113

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

Byblos wrote:
touchingcloth wrote:How comes you keep putting a - instead of an o in god?
I believe it is rooted in Jewish tradition not to spell the entire word out of respect.
Well yes but I've never seen it done with english words before...with yahweh we put the missing letters back in!
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:17 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: The Human Eye- design flaws?
Replies: 25
Views: 9896

Re: The Human Eye- design flaws?

It's ridiculous to say the human eye (or any eye, for that matter) has design flaws.
Sure it's not perfect, but it's demonstrably not been a barrier to the human population propagating itself for 200K years.
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:12 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another false intermediate link.
Replies: 5
Views: 1477

Re: Another false intermediate link.

May I ask how you reached the conclusion that it is just another monkey? It obviously still has the ape-like skull as well as other monkey/ape features. Did you read the link BG provided and still come to the conclusion that monkey=ape? When we are talking about "transitional forms" we ne...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Another false intermediate link.
Replies: 5
Views: 1477

Re: Another false intermediate link.

How foolish! This is just another species of monkey. If all orangutans went extinct some 2000 years ago and we were just now digging them up, we would think they were the closest link to man. We would be saying, oh look it has the pelvis bone to walk upright, therefore it must be an intermediate li...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:01 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49113

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

Gman, you have me stumped, what two gods are you talking about? Yes, I realize that you were referring to the link between science and the Bible, which you proved nicely, thank you. I was merely just pointing the fact out to you that "NOW" (after you have proved this fact) you cannot simp...
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:57 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

derrick09 wrote:..the fact that the Pod Mrcaru evolved cecal valves shows that it is slowly but surely trying to turn into a different kind of animal.
It isn't trying to do anything. To suggest that would be to show a profound misunderstanding about evolutionary theory.
by touchingcloth
Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:29 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Tree of life? Scientists from "New Scientist Magazine" state in the 2009 article Why Darwin was wrong about the tree of life. Did you read the whole article? It was about later gene transfer and the fact that the branching areas of the tree are necessarily fuzzy when you have 2 or more po...
by touchingcloth
Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:16 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49113

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

Gman if what you say is true about Genesis being correct (which you have successfully proved), than you need to seriously consider that each day (1-7) are actual 24 hour days as plainly stated within the Hebrew text itself. You're absolutely right - the Gman scientifically proved it beyond any hint...
by touchingcloth
Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:59 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Why? Do labs scare you? You were the one claiming that Darwinian evolution is the most illuminating scientific theories we have. So prove it.. Labs would be a good start.. I want to see this weight of information. ... Earlier you stated that the sheer weight of evidence from multiple disciplines, e...
by touchingcloth
Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:43 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Darwin obviously did not address genetics.. You have not seen the distinction between micro/macro evolution before? Oh,that is an old trick, deny the evidence.. Perhaps you would like to debate these evolutionary scientists.. Apparently to them it does exist.. Well even going by those quotes it sti...
by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:15 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

You've raised a few different things here so I'll go point-by-point Which hypothesis of mine, sorry? And is marco-evolution different from Darwinian evolution (it's not a term I'm familiar with sorry)? You are not familiar with marco-evolution? Microevolution deals with changes in the gene pool of a...
by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18781

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

It's manifestly not a religious philosophy. Science - broadly speaking - examines evidence then generates and tests hypotheses. Well tested hypotheses reach the level of theories. Science tries to document the factual character of the natural world and develop theories that coordinate and explain t...
by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:52 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49113

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

AFAIK a fruit tree equates to a flowering plant - fruit grows from the fertilised flower/blossom. Again, the Bible is silent on the issue.. OK. So "Hashamayim we ha' erets" (That's from G.1:1, right? Sorry, my Hebrew is a little rusty ;)) refers to life as well? If it does refer to the to...