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by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:02 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18782

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Darwinian evolution is not science.. It's a religious philosophy. Science is not in the business of ultimate explanations. That's not what it does.. It works on specific things, it advances theories, but it never makes a claim about everything. People make the claims. People that are committed to D...
by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:53 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49114

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

The flowering plants verse is G.1:11-12 "fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind" . It's all addressed here... Essentially the Bible is silent on the issue of flowering plants. AFAIK a fruit tree equates to a flowering plant - fruit grows from the fertilised flower/blossom. I'm not sure ...
by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:04 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49114

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

The flowering plants verse is G.1:11-12 "fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind" . I'm not sure the distinction you're trying to make of asah translating as "made" rather than "created" (I did a bit of googling and the definitions of asah I found covered a whole range...
by touchingcloth
Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:45 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49114

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

So "the greater light to rule the day" isn't the sun? Have you at all read any of the articles on the main page? If not, please spend some time reading them, you may be somewhat surprised. And if you did read them then your posts make no sense. What actually "makes no sense" is ...
by touchingcloth
Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:00 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18782

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Gman wrote: And what about the Darwinian myth? It is not science...
Care to elaborate on that?
by touchingcloth
Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:59 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49114

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

When in the past would you say the sun, moon and stars were created then? The verse you cited (G.1:16) takes place after G.1:13 ("and the evening and the morning were the 3rd day"). The verse you quoted explicitly says they were made . ETA - your own summary includes sun, moon and stars i...
by touchingcloth
Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:38 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...
Replies: 78
Views: 18782

Re: Can science and faith really coexist? Please convince me...

Science can tolerate faith, as long as people don't try to impose their faith upon science. For example the Genesis myth is completely incompatible with science, and there are some who believe that the account of Genesis is literally true . When such people try and replace proper science, with their...
by touchingcloth
Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:59 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49114

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

When in the past would you say the sun, moon and stars were created then? The verse you cited (G.1:16) takes place after G.1:13 ("and the evening and the morning were the 3rd day"). The verse you quoted explicitly says they were made . ETA - your own summary includes sun, moon and stars in...
by touchingcloth
Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:13 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The scientific proof for Genesis
Replies: 79
Views: 49114

Re: The scientific proof for Genesis

So let's look at the comparison. Genesis ............................ Scientific data .................................. 1. Heavens and Earth..............1. Big Bang 2. Earth covered in darkness...2. First atmosphere (gaseous silica) 3. Light...................................3. Solar winds expose...
by touchingcloth
Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A Christian question for scientists.
Replies: 29
Views: 6861

Re: A Christian question for scientists.

Hi, Ageofknowledge, Can I pick you up on the following point? True. The social mores we have "evolved to" don't look good. In the 20th century, many came together in atheistic secular humanism or pantheistic political constructs and it resulted in a couple hundred million perishing on top ...
by touchingcloth
Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:38 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A Christian question for scientists.
Replies: 29
Views: 6861

Re: A Christian question for scientists.

Hi Keith! Scientists (and sceptics) are usualy unwilling to accept these strong personal conversion stories as proof of god because a) they are very subjective experiences b) all religions have followers who claim similar experiences & c) various psychology experiments over the years have shown ...
by touchingcloth
Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:59 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Apology-
Replies: 11
Views: 2399

Re: Apology-

Hi Imperial! Good to see your apology. I'm an atheist and I've found (so far) that this is a very pleasant board where people are having proper discussions, rather than the sniping and rabid arguments that you get on a lot of discussion boards where religion is discussed. I try to remain civil in on...
by touchingcloth
Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:26 am
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: Smiting
Replies: 34
Views: 8675

Re: Smiting

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by touchingcloth
Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:16 pm
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: Smiting
Replies: 34
Views: 8675

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by touchingcloth
Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:45 am
Forum: Christian Chit-chat
Topic: Smiting
Replies: 34
Views: 8675

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