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by Philip
Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:25 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Byblos: 2. Do we have any inherent power within us to save ourselves? Philip: No, but we DO have free will to respond as God enlightens and draws - responding positively to his drawing will result in his leading us all the way to salvation - we cannot do it without His drawing. But he also foreknows...
by Philip
Tue Dec 27, 2011 3:13 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Philip wrote:While the REACTION to Five Point answers to the above might indeed become emotional, the questions themselves, however, as to their end-resulting realities, are either true or are not? Are the realities I described not true and were or were they not chosen COMPLETELY independent of any...
by Philip
Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:56 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Sorry Philip but this is nothing more than an appeal to emotions. If you have a scriptural rebuttal to what Danny and August offered over several pages then please state it. Let me ask you - the END results as I described them, of what Five Point Calvinism must mean for the vast majority of the wor...
by Philip
Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:40 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

I think that what must be examined are, what do the END results of Five Point Calvinism mean for the world, IF true? 1) for the world (during the lifetimes of everyone on earth)? 2) and beyond this world (the eternal results and destiny of each person)? 3) How and upon what basis has God chosen and...
by Philip
Mon Dec 26, 2011 7:38 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

In view of such passages, it is legitimate to ask: "If Christ died only for the elect, how can the offer of salvation be made to all persons without some sort of insincerity, artificiality, or dishonesty being involved? Is it not improper to offer salvation to everyone if in fact Christ did no...
by Philip
Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:24 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

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by Philip
Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:28 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Danny wants to know how I know what the vast millions of Christians have believed? Well, Danny, we know what churches and traditions most Christians around the world have come out of. We know how few, compared to the vast majority of churches, worldwide, are preaching or have historically preached R...
by Philip
Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:53 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Puritan Lad: "Maybe no explicitly, but how else would they explain how one person made a decision for Christ and another rejects Him? Apparently the saved man found enough goodness in himself to make the right decision, whereas the unsaved just couldn't pull it off." Did you read my posts...
by Philip
Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:18 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Perhaps not put into the right thread, nonetheless I have chimed in because this thread is full of important aspects relating to election and free will, and thus I felt led to do so. It is clear from Scripture that ALL men have before them a choice that Scripture indicates CAN be made. And it most d...
by Philip
Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:19 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Call it what you will - whatever theological identification, whatever term. But the bottom line is that it's an enormous mistake to believe that God has not put a choice before EVERYONE (whether to follow him, to repent, to accept Jesus, etc), that they can ALL choose to obey - or not. In Acts 17:30...
by Philip
Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:16 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

Does God only call SOME to repentance – or ALL? Does Scripture say he desires even SOME men to perish – or NOT ANY? Does God expect those He continuously warns to repent to do so, OR NOT? Does God command things one cannot do? Does God desire that SOME men remain in rebellion to Him – does He DESIR...
by Philip
Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:14 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

The problem is, Five Point Calvinism is a man-made theological construct that tries to put our omnipotent God, Who transcends time, space, dimension, and parameters we don’t even know about, into a box. And its complexity and the circumstances surrounding its extremely late development should be cl...
by Philip
Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:07 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 112190

Re: John Wesley's theology

This destructive debate over a man-made theological construct - the theological box of Five Point Calvinism - is harmful to both believers and unbelievers alike. Even Calvinists often disagree on various points, the complexity of which has filled many volumes. In the three following posts, is my vie...
by Philip
Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:50 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: God Particle? Any ideas?
Replies: 32
Views: 10183

Re: God Particle? Any ideas?

Good article for a Christian perspective on chromosome fusion: http://www.reasons.org/chromosome-2-bes ... -evolution

Lots of powerful scientific evidences for God and the Bible in that same site: www.reasons.org
by Philip
Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:09 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Perry and Romney
Replies: 15
Views: 4592

Re: Perry and Romney

Yep, no question, Ron Paul's ship won't float with the pacify Iran anchor he's dragging around. The thing is, as much as some Libertarian thought is attractive, what it doesn't really do is realistically address the darker sides of human nature. Libertarians seem to think people will make GOOD and r...