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by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:59 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

Who is the person who made the comment? Is it someone I may be familiar with? I heard it on Pastors Perspective a Calvary Chapel radio show. Both Ken Ham and Kent Hovind have an extremely strong influence within Calvary circles. Is Chuck Smith part of that Calvary circle? I think he has talked posi...
by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:02 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

No, sorry Jac. Just various things I've found while looking online. I didn't remember anything specific because at the time, I was researching Ross and OEC, not the critiques themselves. The things I read, lead me to do my own search into Ross and OEC, and to see for myself what Ross and other OECs...
by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:44 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

Theistic Evolution on a broad definition can fall under a category of Old Earth Creationism. Hugh Ross is regularly called a theistic evolutionist by young earth creationists. It's a "guilt by association" type argument on their part I believe. If they can tie the word "evolutionist&...
by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:42 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

It's the tone Ken Ham sets against OEC's that bothers me. When I saw him speak he stated something to the effect of "those that don't believe in a six day creation account need to repent for calling God a liar". This is rather excessive in my opinion. I used to live in Wisconsin and all o...
by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:26 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

It's the tone Ken Ham sets against OEC's that bothers me. When I saw him speak he stated something to the effect of "those that don't believe in a six day creation account need to repent for calling God a liar". This is rather excessive in my opinion. I used to live in Wisconsin and all o...
by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:53 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

Theistic Evolution on a broad definition can fall under a category of Old Earth Creationism. Hugh Ross is regularly called a theistic evolutionist by young earth creationists. It's a "guilt by association" type argument on their part I believe. If they can tie the word "evolutionist&...
by RickD
Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:29 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

I would like to know what motivates these people's dogmatic views. The same thing that motivates Ross' and his supporters' dogmatic views: fidelity to Scripture. You have studied the text and have come to the firm conclusion that the Bible teaches OEC. We have studied the text and have come to the ...
by RickD
Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:44 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

I was hoping for some clarification on something I heard regarding Dr. Hugh Ross. I was listening to a radio program the other day were you can call in and inquire about topics related to the bible. One caller brought up the subject of Dr. Hugh Ross and asked what the hosts thought of him and his m...
by RickD
Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:26 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

I just read page 32 of ross' book "More than a Theory". Ross also may consider himself a Concordist. "Concordism is the view that the scientific record and the biblical message of creation extensively overlap. In that overlap concordist's see complete harmony and consistency between t...
by RickD
Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:06 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Dr. Hugh Ross
Replies: 191
Views: 50451

Re: Dr. Hugh Ross

Everything I have read or seen of Ross, says he is a OEC. he himself has stated that he is not a theistic evolutionist. Whatever you heard, may fall into the same category as some YECs who thought Ross was an evolutionist without actually listening to Ross or reading his books.
by RickD
Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:35 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Darwin a racist?
Replies: 73
Views: 27645

Re: Re:

I was really involved reading this thread, when I read part of this from Gman on page 2. For some reason I got a picture in my head that I couldn't get rid of. I pictured the picture of God like on the home page of God and Science, and a bunch of obtuse, right, and acute angles. :pound: Yes, but it...
by RickD
Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:19 am
Forum: End Times
Topic: Is “Rapture” an Acceptable Term?
Replies: 5
Views: 2766

Re: Is “Rapture” an Acceptable Term?

I tend to like this article on it.. http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/tribulation.html#Cxn3aLl3uaIf I agree. Great article. I hear some Christians hope for the rapture when they get discouraged. Almost like they will be bailed out before any serious persecution starts. I think we in modern Amer...
by RickD
Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:08 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Darwin a racist?
Replies: 73
Views: 27645

Re:

The spiritual realm is dissolved in the naturalistic world. Yes, I understand that there is a hierarchy in the spiritual realm too, but not so in the human spiritual realm (meaning in the exclusion God or the angles..) because spiritually we are all the same... According to the Bible men and women ...
by RickD
Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:02 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Say Gman and other OECs I got a question...
Replies: 13
Views: 3297

Re: Say Gman and other OECs I got a question...

I just think it makes more sense to believe in a eternal Creator who existed outside space and time and everything else, than to believe in an eternal something else. My head hurts trying to understand some of these arguments about the non-creator views of the beginning of the universe. I just look ...
by RickD
Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:15 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Adam, Where art thou?
Replies: 28
Views: 8230

Re: Adam, Where art thou?

Please elaborate because I think you're trying to say something here, but I'm missing it since to me there does exist at least one race that we're aware of that require no Savior. Help me understand why there being humans of this sort is an "all of a sudden..." moment. What do you mean by...