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- Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:05 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
Jlay I don't have anything to offer God. He already knows everything so I don't know that anyone has something to offer God. What can you offer a being that has the power to do everything and anything? Your free will? He gave that to you so why would he need it? Your love? He also made that. So what...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:03 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
B.W. “Could you — would you lay down your life to expose what sin is in order to save a bunch of people who lie about you, put you on trial, falsely accuse you, spit upon you, mock you, beat you, place a crown of sharp thrones jammed into your head, whip, strip you naked, drive nails into your hands...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:21 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
For example: Action one: I give my girlfriend a rose for valentines; is it an action with meaning? Sure it is. You reckon? ;) Giving your girlfriend a rose on "valentines" has no meaning whatsoever; other than it "means" you are conforming to someone telling you you should give ...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:20 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 79387
Re: Morals without god/the bible
So by Fürstentum Liechtenstein post I would conclude that god is making me a stronger atheist. Or am I reading it wrong? God hardened Pharaoh's heart because Pharaoh had already hardened his. God can use evil for a purpose, that doesn't mean he created evil. So how much have you hardened your heart...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:26 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
I already answered as straight as it can be answered. I'll say it again: THE ACTION HAS MEANING. NEVER SAID IT DIDN'T HAVE MEANING. JUST HOW MEANINGFULL IS IT. "What kind of person would say they don't have meaning?” No one. I'm talking about the meaning given to the action. Is that a straight...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:32 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
I'll say it again, the action has value, I see it, I just don´t think is that big of a deal (no offense) and I'm asking how valuable it is. You saying: “The King and creator of the universe, The UNIVERSE, gave up His throne, to become a man like you, live on this earth without once sinning, then was...
- Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:38 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 79387
Re: Morals without god/the bible
Have you [atheist sweetadeline] read the whole bible? Have you read all the extra-biblical sources? Have you read all the non-Christian sources? Please, give me a resounding Yes to all of these ... Each new proof of God's sovereignty didn't convince Pharaoh (see Exodus 5,6,7,8,9,10,11...) because h...
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:29 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
I am a civil engineer. And I do most of my work on the field with the “labor force”. So I know how a worker feels when he sees the “boss on the ground with them”. I think I've exposed my idea wrong, my bad, I didn't mean it doesn't have meaning, every action has some meaning, the thing is how mean...
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:44 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
What's 33 years compared to eternity? I wish more people would ask that question. I am assuming your implication is that because Christ WOULD raise from the dead, that the sacrifice has no merit. I fail to see how foreknowledge effects or minimizes the act. Even when I am certain of things, I can s...
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:56 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
I never said he didn't suffer or that it didn't hurt, it probably did and a lot, or that he felt human fear, that's not what I'm questioning, the point is the validity of the sacrifice knowing full well that at the end you are going to be alright. It would be like (excuse the example but I´m a big ...
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:20 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Jesus Death
- Replies: 87
- Views: 16030
Re: Jesus Death
I never said he didn't suffer or that it didn't hurt, it probably did and a lot, or that he felt human fear, that's not what I'm questioning, the point is the validity of the sacrifice knowing full well that at the end you are going to be alright. It would be like (excuse the example but I´m a big c...
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:05 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 79387
Re: Morals without god/the bible
I know the Bible is composed of many book written at different points in history by different people and in some cases have been change over time. What I´m asking is if books that compose the Bible are the source and the evidence for the claims posted or are there any other extra-bible sources? You...
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:04 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Fear of God
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2257
Re: Fear of God
Thanks Canuckster. That's a really interesting answer, makes a lot more sense to me that way.
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:55 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 79387
Re: Morals without god/the bible
I know the Bible is composed of many book written at different points in history by different people and in some cases have been change over time. What I´m asking is if books that compose the Bible are the source and the evidence for the claims posted August or are there any other extra-bible sources?
- Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:46 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Fear of God
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2257
Re: Fear of God
But you understand the power of the sun and what would happen if you jump from an airplane and you don´t fear your Drill Sergeant you respect him (speaking from what my dad, a marine, has told me). So I ask shouldn't it be respect of God instead of fear?. Or maybe because people don´t fully understa...