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by Manfer84
Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:23 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 16032

Jesus Death

Was Jesus sacrifice meaningful? I mean he knew he was gonna resurrect and live for all eternity as God (with him being God and all). It's like giving a homeless guy your last sandwich knowing you have a whole buffet around the corner. It is just meaningless. Or can someone shine a different light on...
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:42 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Fear of God
Replies: 11
Views: 2257

Fear of God

Hi I was wondering, What is the whole fear of God thing about? I don't get it, If God is real then why would we fear our “loving father”? Does any parent tells their kid “Hey son you have to fear me in order for me to love you” I was wondering is someone could explain this to me, because I think I...
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:34 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morals without god/the bible
Replies: 448
Views: 79387

Re: Morals without god/the bible

Well, let's have your a posteriori proof that Jesus is God! You still have no presented it to me! You have to make up your mind whether we are talking about the existence of Jesus (a man), or the existence of Jesus (a god-entity). Therein lies part of the confusion. Are we debating about a god, or ...
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:26 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morals without god/the bible
Replies: 448
Views: 79387

Re: Morals without god/the bible

Have you [atheist sweetadeline] read the whole bible? Have you read all the extra-biblical sources? Have you read all the non-Christian sources? Please, give me a resounding Yes to all of these ... Each new proof of God's sovereignty didn't convince Pharaoh (see Exodus 5,6,7,8,9,10,11...) because h...
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:27 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Simple Question
Replies: 17
Views: 2986

Re: Simple Question

Without a newspaper there is no news. That's silly. The bible is a reality because God is a reality. You are right, if God is a reality then of course the Bible is real, but where did you get the first statement “God is reality”?. Let's put it this way better, what other way can someone “know” th...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:51 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Simple Question
Replies: 17
Views: 2986

Re: Simple Question

The Bible is not the source of belief in God. It is a source and further it is not an exclusive source. People believed in Christ as Savior and Lord before the New Testament was written. Further people believed in Christ as Savior and Lord before the New Testament was recognized as inspired and the...
by Manfer84
Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:18 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Simple Question
Replies: 17
Views: 2986

Re: Simple Question

Well, I'll say it again: "And my point, if you wanna call it that, was just to see what people thought about the quote I posted that using the Bible to prove God or creation theories was circular logic." I guess to the non-believer in general it might be. To the atheist it no doubt WOULD ...
by Manfer84
Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:39 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Simple Question
Replies: 17
Views: 2986

Re: Simple Question

Well, I'll say it again:
"And my point, if you wanna call it that, was just to see what people thought about the quote I posted that using the Bible to prove God or creation theories was circular logic."
by Manfer84
Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:18 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Simple Question
Replies: 17
Views: 2986

Re: Simple Question

DannyM: “Are you saying the Christian's faith lies solely in the bible?” Isn't it? Because if there was no Bible there would be no Christian God. Where would people get the idea of the Christian God if it wasn't for the Bible? And my point, if you wanna call it that, was just to see what people tho...
by Manfer84
Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:05 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Simple Question
Replies: 17
Views: 2986

Simple Question

I read this comment in the forum, don't remember exactly were but it was by Blind Electric Ray, and in the thread it was posted nobody seemed to have anything to say about it. Here goes: “The Bible is not evidence for the belief in God but rather the source of the belief in God. Without the Bible, y...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:26 pm
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: Walking with Dinosaurs
Replies: 39
Views: 13604

Re: Walking with Dinosaurs

I find this thread quite interesting so let me ask: would the Flintstones be considered as possible?
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:40 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morals without god/the bible
Replies: 448
Views: 79387

Re: Morals without god/the bible

Thanks for that answer.
I have more questions such as that one so I´m gonna star a new thread about it, because I'm satisfy with the whole “moral” thing.
I hope Jlay you would answer the questions I post, because it´s been fun talking to you.
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:48 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morals without god/the bible
Replies: 448
Views: 79387

Re: Morals without god/the bible

I´m sorry if it didn´t get trough what I was trying to say with my last post, but in fact I was just trying to say exactly what you just said. "sure, there are some good arguments for looking into morality being objective." I believe that now thanks to all your answers and how you have pre...
by Manfer84
Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:25 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morals without god/the bible
Replies: 448
Views: 79387

Re: Morals without god/the bible

Thanks Jlay, that last answer of yours is good enough for me to think about it, I don´t think I'm gonna get another one better than that and also I don´t think I´m capable of continue this “debate” because I don´t have enough knowledge on the matter, besides what I think (which I think is not enoug...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:46 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Morals without god/the bible
Replies: 448
Views: 79387

Re: Morals without god/the bible

I think you totally missed the point of my analogy. You are taking the position that life has no inherent value. That life is no more significant than an elephant fart. Inherently speaking of course. The point is to show you that when confronted with these two value systems, it is easy to see that ...