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- Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:40 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
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Re: Morals without god/the bible
B.W. I read your post and it seems you say that because absolutes exist a moral absolute must exist, which I don´t seem to follow. For absolute truth to exist, the opposite of such truth must exist as well, so that what is absolutely true is manifested and made known. I hope that last part didn't m...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:49 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
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Re: Morals without god/the bible
“If I walk up to you with a gun and say, I'm going to kill you, what reason can you give other than your opinion as to why I shouldn't? The law? I don't care about the law. If I value killing you, and you value living, do you honestly believe that both of these are equal positions?” You just said t...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:28 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
Well not overgrown germs, but animal that just happen to develop higher brain functions (that's sounds weird but I hope you get my meaning). And I think that once you die there is no more value in being kind to others, as opposed to murdering others to get what you want. But then again you make it s...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:49 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
Ok then, I senses that you have a pretty low opinion of me, hope I´m wrong. Whatever gave you that idea? I happen to think it is you who has a low opinion of you. Now I have one simple question for you, you also don´t have to answer, what would happen if it turns out you are wrong, that God actuall...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:35 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
The thing Byblos is that I don´t have a better argument, I just don´t think about that stuff that much to come up with one, it doesn't, in any way, affect my life. So I'm sorry but I´m not gonna be able to give you the debate you want. I'm just a guy saying what I feel and think and learning what o...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:12 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
It´s not that I´m refusing I have really treid to accept it, but I just can´t seem to do it. I don´t mind answering that questions, if I'm wrong then, according to everything I've read, I'm gonna spend eternity in hell right?. That´s it I guess And that's quite alright, as long as you can live with...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:19 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
You are correct Jlay, “The fact that DNA is a coded sequence. The fact that the earth sits on a particular axis, the earth's position, and the other things I mentioned are facts. Not opinions. The reality of human existence being a statistical wonder is not just how I feel. It is the truth.” It is ...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:01 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
The thing Byblos is that I don´t have a better argument, I just don´t think about that stuff that much to come up with one, it doesn't, in any way, affect my life. So I'm sorry but I´m not gonna be able to give you the debate you want. I'm just a guy saying what I feel and think and learning what o...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:36 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
The thing Byblos is that I don´t have a better argument, I just don´t think about that stuff that much to come up with one, it doesn't, in any way, affect my life. So I'm sorry but I´m not gonna be able to give you the debate you want. I'm just a guy saying what I feel and think and learning what ot...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:14 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
Jlay: If a death squad came to my house I would probably say F……. and get shot in the face, that´s it, what else would you think someone would say? I'm not sure I understand this question: “So, you disagree with the scientific reality of these things???” If I'm not mistaken (statistics and probabil...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:59 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
B.W. I read your post and it seems you say that because absolutes exist a morel absolute must exist, which I don´t seem to follow. You say a creator is not logical so please present us with your logical case for the existence of anything. I don´t have a better case than the ones that have already b...
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:34 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
B.W.
I read your post and it seems you say that because absolutes exist a morel absolute must exist, which I don´t seem to follow.
I read your post and it seems you say that because absolutes exist a morel absolute must exist, which I don´t seem to follow.
- Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:42 am
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
Well this is gonna make me sound like a really bad person probably, but I don´t think there is a moral objective standard, I think it depends on the society you are currently living, and the requirements to live in said society. An action by itself is not good or bad, in order to determine its “good...
- Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:51 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
I used to be searching because of the relationship I'm currently in (a catholic girl), she knows I'm an atheist, she's cool with it but in the beginning she asked me if I could give the whole God thing another try, see if I could “renew my faith”. It didn't work, but it was enough for her to see me...
- Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:17 pm
- Forum: Questions for Christians
- Topic: Morals without god/the bible
- Replies: 448
- Views: 80948
Re: Morals without god/the bible
It's lack of belief. And to answer the other question, they were basically the same, maybe (please don't take this the wrong way) a little less preachy. But then again a congregation known as Advance Catholic (Avanzada catolica in spanish) was kind of "in charge" of the religious upbringin...