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by Manfer84
Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:52 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Well guys
I've been point out that I'm not using this forum according to the established rules, so I guess this is my last comment.
Thanks for everything and all the interesting points of view I have been able to see.
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:12 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Jlay: “I'm going to challenge you here Manfer because you are not being consistent. You just told me about how amazing life is, because it is so rare, and unusual. You are willing to worship (yes that is what you are doing) nature for random, purposeless events. In other words, you stand in awe of l...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:09 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

I never said he should do everything, (please quote where I said it, Joke!! :esmile: ) I´m just not impress with what he has done. I think (I'm gonna judge God in the next part so watch out!) he could do a better job with all the “elements” he has at his disposal. :) Very funny. You cannot judge G...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:17 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Zoegirl: “You aren't impressed by someone who sacrifices himself?” I'm impressed with people that selflessly sacrifice themselves. I don't consider the whole Jesus thing the big sacrifice everyone of think it is, why? Because of what the definition sacrifice is: Answer.com: a. Forfeiture of somethi...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:23 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Gabrielman: “Manfer the first thing is that God is doing everything He can to make you see the light” Really? That's all he can do? Talking to me through an old book, getting people that already believe in him to talk to me and working in my life trough “mysterious ways”? That's all the all-power...
by Manfer84
Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:36 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Gabrielman: “Manfer the first thing is that God is doing everything He can to make you see the light” Really? That's all he can do? Talking to me through an old book, getting people that already believe in him to talk to me and working in my life trough “mysterious ways”? That's all the all-powerf...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:48 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Danny M. I asked you for quotes because I don´t recall saying those things, don´t like to read much and are somewhat lazy. Yes. Regarding God I´m hard to impress. A being capable of anything doing something is not impressive to me. “So you would willingly put your son through the worst pain imaginab...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:08 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Danny M: So: 1 Thessalonians 5:21 tells the Christian to put everything to the test, but when I question why God would choose such a gruesome way to make a point (saving us from sin), or THE point, as some have put it, I get the whole “who do you think you are to questioned God's way, you think you...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:57 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Jlay: I said I'm not here to be converted, because it's true, I already tried it and it didn't work, maybe I did it wrong, who knows. I'm here for personal curiosity if conversion happens along the way fine by me, I'm certainly not looking for it anymore. Also the thing is I don't mind for the grave...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:00 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Curiosity question
Replies: 3
Views: 1191

Re: Curiosity question

Well good to know :D
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:35 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Jlay: During my relaxing weekend at the beach with my girl, seafood and beer in hand, I´ve thought about what you said on your last post and come to the conclusion that you are right, I keep presenting the same argument over again, different words but same ideas. So I think we are at a point that a...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:19 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Curiosity question
Replies: 3
Views: 1191

Curiosity question

I was reading a thread about Obama and abortion, and a question (not related to the thread) comes to mind. Before a person is born, where is his soul? Is it created at the conception or does God have a little “soul” storage facility in heaven? More to the point, are we in heaven before we are born ...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:55 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Jlay: Again, you say that God exist, that's it for you, there is no way that would change right? You are a 100% sure you have the right answer. For you every other person that's not Christian is wrong. I'm not going to get in a pissing match here Man. I have been very upfront with you in saying, &q...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:54 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Aren´t we allow, even encourage, to question things? It sounds to me that you take anything your God says and just swallow it, you don't even bother to think it, just because he is your “master” doesn't mean you don't have the right to question him, or think why he does the things he does. Nope. W...
by Manfer84
Mon Mar 22, 2010 7:53 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Jesus Death
Replies: 87
Views: 17019

Re: Jesus Death

Gabrielman you said: “You keep saying that God should do all He can in His power to make us all go to heaven, yet why should He if you won't accept Him?” Why do I say this?, because I think that you and every other parent would do anything and everything for their son even if he rejects you and sa...