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by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 7:54 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Goodness of God
Replies: 17
Views: 4173

Re: The Goodness of God

No.. Because if you are talking about context, Jesus was addressing the Jews.. And eventually, we become a part of His flock (John 10:16), inheriting the same benefits as the people he addressed. Also, certain laws of the OT still apply today. Galatians 3:13 must've led me in the wrong direction. E...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 6:53 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Goodness of God
Replies: 17
Views: 4173

Re: The Goodness of God

I'm not sure if I follow you.. If we are talking about context, then beliefs taken anywhere out of the Old Testament wouldn't apply to us as well.. Most of the Old Testament doesn't apply to us. It's mostly writings of the religious life of ancient Israel. They very much apply to God, which indirec...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 6:30 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Mormons vehemently oppose the Trinity
Replies: 192
Views: 59978

Re: Mormons vehemently oppose the Trinity..

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your statement fully.

Did you mean to say that "what is seen through the eyes/mind of the religious tradition one is exposed to" is what's made up?
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 6:18 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: The Goodness of God
Replies: 17
Views: 4173

Re: The Goodness of God

2. God has peaceful and good thoughts toward us and our future, NOT evil thoughts. Jeremiah 29:11 I'm sick of this verse being taken out of context. I don't know about you, but I am glad that I get to return in seventy years from my exile from Jerusalem to Babylon (Jeremiah 29:10, NIV). Being broug...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 1:32 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Do non trinitarians go to Heaven?
Replies: 22
Views: 6308

Re: Do non trinitarians go to Heaven?

This reply is for the subject of the thread rather than the topic we're discussing now, sorry: Until the Council of Nicea (AD 335?), this belief (or any related doctrine) wasn't fully considered orthodox. For a while, the Bible wasn't even canonized. Different books of the bible were considered scri...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 1:07 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Anti-Paulist
Replies: 1
Views: 1185

Re: Anti-Paulist

This is a big wake-up call for many. Learning that the gospels weren't chronologically first sparked my curiosity (so were the questions I had about Christianity while learning about Mormonism). Pseudopigrapha (sp) is highly backed in the scholarly field (except among, as mentioned in your quote, fu...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 12:31 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Definition of Inspiration
Replies: 1
Views: 1139

Re: Definition of Inspiration

I would say approved-of only, and I really couldn't see it any other way. I'll give my subjective argument for it and then my scriptural one. Subjectively, I feel as though God would've been more specific about certain things had He "breathed" the scriptures himself. This supposes, however...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 11:31 am
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Good argument against Deism?
Replies: 30
Views: 21282

Re: Good argument against Deism?

This is an incredibly late reply, sorry if it's no longer relevant. I think this apologetic pre-supposes too much, unless he shares your beliefs on how: 1) a god must be the greatest possible being, and 2) that the greatest possible being must be all-loving. Unless those two arguments are also a com...
by openminded
Tue May 25, 2010 4:36 am
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Mormons vehemently oppose the Trinity
Replies: 192
Views: 59978

Re: Mormons vehemently oppose the Trinity..

This is one of the trickiest topics to discuss with a Mormon.  For one, they think "one in purpose" sufficiently places them in monotheism. Wonderful doubletalk. I suggest presenting Joseph Smith's view on the matter: " I have always declared God to be a distinct personage, Jesus Chri...
by openminded
Fri May 21, 2010 8:02 pm
Forum: Aberrant Christianity
Topic: Mormon doctrine racist against blacks
Replies: 43
Views: 20505

Re: Mormon doctrine racist against blacks

I skim daily over MRM's blog, and one of the posters pulls references out like some sort of human Google. Ha. Anyways, this is relevant to the actual thread ;) It's a statement by the First Presidency: August 17, 1949 The attitude of the Church with reference to Negroes remains as it has always stoo...
by openminded
Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:18 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Obama's Health Plan
Replies: 182
Views: 50173

Re: Obama's Health Plan

Oh wow, they do have one. I feel completely ignorant.
Definitely deserve that, shouldve done my own research instead of pick up clues from the media.
by openminded
Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:40 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Obama's Health Plan
Replies: 182
Views: 50173

Re: Obama's Health Plan

Now that it passed, It looks like we'll have to see what happens. I predict more than a few Dems losing their spot. But as I sifted through what I've heard the entire time, which is basically "you're socialist!" vs. "people. Need. Healthcare.", one argument has held a glaring tru...
by openminded
Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:50 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: "The Bible is NOT the infallible words of God"
Replies: 18
Views: 5732

Re: "The Bible is NOT the infallible words of God"

I need to look into Binlical archaeology more. From what I've heard, Genesis gets historical starting around chapter 12 (or 16?). Either way, I question the historocity due to the timing of the writings. If no one was there to witness the creation, how do we know that was the exact order? Aside from...
by openminded
Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Please Introduce Yourself Here
Replies: 2307
Views: 747065

Re: Please Introduce Yourself Here

Hey guys, I'm Jay. I came across this site while studying Mormonism, and even more so as I began to have my own questions and questions from atheist friends. It's been a wonderful resource, and this forum seems to have some solid apologists on board
by openminded
Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:35 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: "The Bible is NOT the infallible words of God"
Replies: 18
Views: 5732

Re: "The Bible is NOT the infallible words of God"

Would you include 100% historical in the definition of inerrant?