Evidence for God from Science

And while I have come up with some more or less satisfying answers to it, they require adopting either Open Theism or Inclusivism. I have to say, I was close to abandoning Christianity when I realized how futile it is to try to rationalize this issue on Classical Theism. You have come close to aban...

Yes.. Well a careful examination of all faiths should be in order.. That meaning studying all the faiths.. Such as Islam, Buddhism, Mormonism, etc.. Are you saying then, that everyone who employs reason, and studying all religions, will naturally and reasonably come to Christianity? That there is n...

If it is the case that God wants all to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-6), then why hasn't God made Himself known to a point where it is obvious He is the one true God? Some may say that free will must remain intact. But God, being God, can make His presence known (or at least, more obvious) while not dest...

I suspect that my query would be better served on a philosophical forum than a Christian forum. While the site is quite valuable with excellent content and articles, it would seem the forums (the community) is rather eclectic and cliquish and not open to assisting others in their path and struggle ...

If it is not a case of inconsistency, then you attribute different characteristics to these 2 different punishments. What are they? Someone shooting someone is not a "punishment" - it's simply an action. A person shooting another for some reason is just an individual action, normally. So ...

I suggest, it's better if you will read a bible. It was really helpful and lot of information you can get there. It is an instrument of God to lead us the right way and for us to know him better. Done that. Also have about $3,000 worth of commentaries, study guides, lexicons, apologetics books from...

What is being done here I belive is the logical fallicy of a false dilemma. Possibly. I'm open to it being the case. But further clarification is necessary IMO. If God declares a penalty (and the penalty is temporal, not eternal) and either declares a different penalty or defers by default to the c...

I realize you argued against punishments having moral values...but you did admit that shooting a child for stealing a lollipop is wrong (immoral). So that seems inconsistent...either punishments have moral values or they do not. Why would you think that an individual shooting someone is a "pun...

For Christians, God is always the central authority. His law supersedes that of man's. Abortion is an example. What versus would you cite for the abortion aspect? I don't know why you're arguing with Bav the way you are. You seem to turn things around much. You claim that you believe God's morals a...

Montana, God gave us a new covenant. Times are different, circumstances are different, and those things are real. We can't control them all, whatsoever, so to somehow place better or worse morality on punishments doesn't make any sense. The act itself - say with murder or homosexual sex - is immora...

What is law is not necessarily what is moral. The two are not synonymous. You are erroneously treating the two as if they were the same it seems. Abortion is legal, yet Christianity teaches it is immoral. As such, the Christian community pushes against the law it believes to be immoral. Exactly rig...

Well...let's back up for a moment here. It seems like an "escape" to say the punishment is the same, there's just an increased period of wait time for death. For example...God ordered men to execute homosexuals at one time. OK, times have changed, the way in which punishments are met are ...

I do not believe God is a relativist. I do not believe morality is relative. But I do not know how to justify this belief considering the circumstance of this issue. I'm glad you don't believe this. Can the created understand things or ideas of the Eternal? Some things maybe, but not all. I think i...

There's no doubt that things have changed. Do you think that God's command to execute homosexuals has changed? If not, then Christians are not behaving morally by not executing homosexuals, correct? If God's command to execute homosexuals has changed, then how is this not an example of relative mor...

If a child steals a lollipop from a store, are you saying there is no good or evil action that the store worker can take here? Only just or unjust? That if the worker notifies the child's parents or authorities, this is not a good thing (nor bad thing), it is simply a "just" thing? And if...