Evidence for God from Science

Hawking is the man who most popularized it in recent times. I'm well aware that he did not originate it; I never said he did. You do like to put words in other people's mouths, don't you, Sandy?

You won't get away with that in this case.

But nice try, anyway.

GMan, You will find that I am not the usual sort of evolution supporter that you are perhaps used to here. I'm much better schooled, both in evolutionary biology, and in Biblical and theological studies, than most. To take your last point first, if you are going to try to impress us with your knowle...

Sandy continues to twirl and pirouette. In one case, "kind" means a species (falcon). In the next case, "kind" means an order (Cicconiformes).

What part of "shifting definitions" do you not understand?

Sandy, please don't waste my time with your word games. The lineage of coelacanths was unknown after the mid-Cretaceous, therefore, it was assumed to have gone extinct. The lineage, not "the" coelacanth. Once Latimera had been discovered and described, the lineage was known from the Recent...

Sandy, you're kidding, right? After reading the last half dozen posts you can seriously ask where the word "kind" was used inconsistently? Come on, if you want to have a discussion, that's great. But if you're just going to repeat questions over and over after they've been answered, I've b...

GMan, when you can come to the discussion table without pitching childish tantrums and insisting on the use of terms which you have been told are inaccurate, I will address your posts. Until then, there is nothing worth saying in response to you. You wish to talk about evolution, and have that be an...

jlay asks that I define "evolution" for him/her. Gladly Evolution is change in gene frequencies in populations of animals and plants through time. It implies two mechanisms: Natural selection and descent with modification. I have always, and will always, use the word in that sense. I will ...

Now that was a particularly childish reply, GMan. First of all, although I believe that there is a higher power in the Universe, it certainly isn't "my" God - it isn't particular to me, nor do I apprehend anything about that power that no one else apprehends. I am an evolutionary biologist...

If all you are going to do is backpedal by making your claims more vague, then there is little point in discussing the matter. The fact remains that you made a positive assertion that has now been shown to be incorrect.

But please feel free to try again.

Sandy, your nice quote mining actually worked against you this time, since the quotation supports my contention, rather than yours. Smith never said "the coelacanth" was extinct, he was speaking of the lineage - the type, as he called it - by which he meant the rhipidistean crossopterygian...

"There is no reason that the definition of "kind" has to map specifically to either "species" or "family"." No, but it has to map to something. It can't mean whatever you'd like it to mean, when it suits you. It has to have a meaning which is then used consist...

What you cite from Pierson5's post does not contradcit what I said, GMan. You seem a tad confused.

I think, if you'd like to pursue such an argument, DayAge, you'd need first to cite your evidence that what you claim is the case, and then tell us why vertebrates "should" have evolved later.

But this is not how the Bible itself defines the term. " You made a claim here, DayAge, that the Bible defined it as genus and species. It appears that you were making something up our of whole cloth. Is this going to be your normal practice? The Bible does not define it in terms of Linnaean h...

The title of this thread is "Evolution and Intelligent Design", GMan. I don't see anything there about "The Origin of Life" - so I'm not sure what you are even trying to say. And as much as some people would like to think that science and religion are two completely separate thin...