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- Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:38 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
Whynot asked: if God is able to divinely inspire/reveal his central truths to some men...why not just do so for all men? Why play favorites? That is a very good question. Jesus answers it in Matt 13:10-17 (NKJV) And the disciples came and said to Him, “Why do You speak to them in parables?” He answ...
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:49 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
Then it's your position that atheists are unable to look forward and plan for tomorrow? The only thing taken out of the equation of meaning and purpose sans God is whatever meaning and purpose each believer believes he/she has derived from their god belief...and that is all. Each of us will still b...
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:17 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Why does God exist?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 32058
Re: Why does God exist?
The only things I can think of that recognize information besides intelligence would be something like the basic systems of life that recognize and code DNA, even in bacteria. But of course, that was designed by the Creator, because you can't have a complex coding system and a non-intelligent metho...
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 9:12 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Why does God exist?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 32058
Re: Why does God exist?
Can you name me any testable, repeatable and observable process other than intelligence that generates information? That's a tough call. Can you name any process which recognises information other than intelligence? whynot: I would have to know your definition of intelligence. On a molecular level ...
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:27 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
What you call assumptions, others refer to as revealed truth. whynot: Indeed, the most "utilitarian epistemic approach" one can embrace. I only wish the source was more democratic in its deployment. Playing favorites in the methodology is anything but morally commendable. Just look at the...
- Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:22 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
How...do atheists expect themselves or others to find meaning and purpose in life when meaning and purpose are eliminated when you take God out of the equation?... I think the ol 1960's song refrain sums it up best: " La,La, La, live for today... " - - - Then it's your position that athei...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:46 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Complexity of life
- Replies: 54
- Views: 13483
Re: Complexity of life
Ok, this may start to worry me a bit. If this is proven would this either disprove Stephen Meyer's ID theory about the information of DNA having to come from an intelligent mind or would this disprove the whole design argument for God's existence? Even worse, would this disprove both? I may have to...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:39 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
Atheist would do anything to preserve their life(as they believe it is the only one they have), including cowardice, this is why I would have a hard time serving in the military with them. whynot: Yeah, with an after-life waiting or 72 virgins...depending on your flavor...strap on them explosives a...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:28 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
How...do atheists expect themselves or others to find meaning and purpose in life when meaning and purpose are eliminated when you take God out of the equation?... I think the ol 1960's song refrain sums it up best: " La,La, La, live for today... " - - - Then it's your position that athei...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:18 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Why does God exist?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 32058
Re: Why does God exist?
Whynot: Food for thought: Are you sure our only two options are random chance or intelligent design? jl: Can you name me any testable, repeatable and observable process other than intelligence that generates information? Not replicates, or copies, but generates. whynot: That's a good question, and ...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:21 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Why does God exist?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 32058
Re: Why does God exist?
You're projecting your materialistic assumptions and the context of your own existence onto someone who created that context. As is the case with my presuppositions and assumptions as well, all you're demonstrating here is the circularity inherent that brings us to those same presuppositions, on in...
- Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:07 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Why does God exist?
- Replies: 83
- Views: 32058
Re: Why does God exist?
Assuming there were an answer to "why" God exists, what reason is there to assume that we as finite human beings, made by an infinite God possess the capacity to understand that question? There are mysteries in life for which there is not a satisfactory answer. You have hit upon one of th...
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:54 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
What you call assumptions, others refer to as revealed truth. whynot: Indeed, the most "utilitarian epistemic approach" one can embrace. I only wish the source was more democratic in its deployment. Playing favorites in the methodology is anything but morally commendable. Just look at the...
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:36 pm
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
The more I read this thread, the more confused I get. It feels like a dozen different things are being discussed, and as soon as we respond to something, the topic changes again. Its getting really frustrating. Brevity is the soul of wit 'whynot'. For the sake of us who don't have tons of time on o...
- Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:58 am
- Forum: Philosophical Discussions
- Topic: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
- Replies: 257
- Views: 71637
Re: Meaning and purpose to Atheists...
"Canuckster1127": Utilitarianism is a broadly accepted and applied system of morality but it is always going to run up against the challenge of making statements as to what is "good" or what is "better" when the standard by which that is measured is a moving target. why...