Evidence for God from Science

Deny it all you like but the truth is the truth and God will hold you to account for spreading lies that lead others to their doom, unless you repent. Hi BW, I well remember we once had quite an involved conversation about hell a while back (2 yrs ago?). I hope you've been well, I really enjoyed th...

I think we are either sheep or goats from the start and only God knows which until we hear His voice and come to Him. IMO God only sees sheep, it's just some are close, and some have strayed. No matter to what distance someone has strayed, it's not His will that they are lost, He is still looking t...

Hi FFC, Good catch there. I can't see how Mark 14 and John 12 would be describing different events. Both accounts describe the anointing of Jesus' feet as taking place at a very specific time in his public ministry, the days leading up to the Passover and Feast, his entry into Jerusalem, and the Las...

No that isn't my point at all... You totally misread what I was trying to say. I'm saying that the theory of Darwinian evolution (not the scientists themselves) breaks down spiritual aspects down to simple physical structures or components. So love isn't spiritual, it is merely broken down to evolv...

Hi atheist, Thank you for your perspective on "the washing of feet" topic, I hadn't looked at that scene before the way you have viewed it. I do accept your questions as being posed in good faith, I hope you will pose more questions and hopefully answers can be found. I'll let you know my ...

Hi Gman, Thank you for your response and thoughts. You make these comments: "Well we appreciate your zeal for science and God, but the way science is taught in schools (meaning Darwinian Evolution) is taught COMPLETELY without any divine intervention. The spiritual world (or even God for the ma...

My attitude in fact is much like that described by a Carl Sagan quote: "In some respects, science has far surpassed religion in delivering awe. How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, 'This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our pro...

I continue to only have limited opportunities to post but will be back here when I can. Some catching up on my part: For me personally, the doctrine of Hell is neglected and negated in today's modern world. It is real. Jesus tells us about it. We need to warn others about it and if in the process, s...

I heard the midwest was pummeled with snow, I guess that was on you, rest up! I've done a keyword search and here are links to results: All instances of "hell" in the New Testament All instances of "fire" in the New Testament (picks up a few more relevant passages, others that ar...

I have a tendency to only perceive the heat and not much light when the lines start to be drawn and fusillades of page-fulls of Bible quotes start to fill my screen, I admit I'm not following some of the details so well anymore. But I do see a general split, one that echoes all the way back to the f...

BW, I appreciate very much the summary of Christian Mysticism, it isn't a topic I know well. I've also looked at wikipedia pages about it. My view about mysticism has been closer to the one Bernie has expressed, I've had a connotation about it that links to mental images of a hermit sitting on a mou...

Thanks for the extra info, and yes, always the excellent suggestion: what are the fruits! To suggest that "orthodox" is on one hand and to "go astray" is the alternative is not so much a true distinction however or a safe method of discernment. Many have been led astray by "...

A good thread, this is a topic that has had an interest for me in recent years. I was always taught about the soul, and the word "spirit" seemed interchangeable with that, but since then I've started to see a difference, and I would say I'm a "trichotomist". We know we're made in...

I think ultimately though what may be more interesting is to discuss the original topic, the relevancy of hell, from the different perspectives we may bring to the table. I imagine there can be some differences in what's meant by "relevancy" and I don't think that's been discussed. * Is a...

There are many diverse views concerning Hell, punishment, and eternity today. So much so, that the existence of Hell is nearly all but forgotten, or simply glossed over, as one writer put it, “Hell has become air conditioned” in our modern world view. Also, the surging tide of NDE (Near Death Expe...