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by Zenith
Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:38 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ruse vs. Dennett
Replies: 30
Views: 7751

BGoodForGoodSake wrote:If nature reveals God than a naturalistic explanation is a Thiestic explanation as well, don't you think?
i think this statement embodies naturalism very well.
by Zenith
Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:35 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ruse vs. Dennett
Replies: 30
Views: 7751

They only differ in degree, no? Evolution says Christianity is false, while evolutionism says all religions are false. I mean, as august has been...trying to get through to some of you, it's either omnipotent God or omnipotent chance-you can't say evolution is true and Christianity is true at the s...
by Zenith
Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:56 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Which is falsifiable?
Replies: 58
Views: 15255

Re: Which is falsifiable?

Bacterial flagellum, which are little tiny motor-driven propellors in bacteria capable of spinning at 10,000 RPM, are often called irreducibly complex systems. I contend that there is no unintelligent process that could have possibly brought this system about. Darwinists have no answer for how the ...
by Zenith
Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:49 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Richard Dawkins: Dangerous idea
Replies: 25
Views: 7313

It is you who ignore the normative meaning of morality. then lay it all out for me, man. i'm a child, i need you to tell me what the normative meaning of morality is, because obviously, i don't have the slightest clue. all i see are simple interactions, i can't uncover the deep interworkings of com...
by Zenith
Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:33 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Richard Dawkins: Dangerous idea
Replies: 25
Views: 7313

i observe my cats feeling attachment to me, or curiosity, jealousy, happiness, etc. That's personification. You are attributing human characteristics to animals. gorillas take care of each other in the wild, they know what is right and wrong in living together. any animal that cares for its young h...
by Zenith
Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:02 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Richard Dawkins: Dangerous idea
Replies: 25
Views: 7313

all human (and many animal) morals consistently center around one main point: if an action is helpful to the survival of the community, it is good; if an action is harmful to the survival of the community, it is bad. Animals have morals? Any evidence? And recall the words of Hume-one cannot find ou...
by Zenith
Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:58 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Richard Dawkins: Dangerous idea
Replies: 25
Views: 7313

Re: Richard Dawkins: Dangerous idea

I guess in his world, we can't be held responsible for our religious beliefs. "Assigning blame and responsibility on theists for their beliefs is an aspect of the useful fiction of intentional agents that we construct in our brains as a means of short-cutting a truer analysis of what is going ...
by Zenith
Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:55 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Richard Dawkins: Dangerous idea
Replies: 25
Views: 7313

"Moral Atheist" - given that morals are only, and can (reasonably) only, be god-given (whence could they come otherwise:?), this is a contradition in terms, isn't it? all human (and many animal) morals consistently center around one main point: if an action is helpful to the survival of t...
by Zenith
Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Scientific Method of Evolution
Replies: 97
Views: 21752

The topic of this thread is 'The Scientific Method of Evolution.' I think you just illustrated that there is none. Consider that your arguments in favor of evolution all center on explaining why evolution might be possible in spite of all the evidence against it. Usually hypothesis must actually pa...
by Zenith
Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:45 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Scientific Method of Evolution
Replies: 97
Views: 21752

Zenith, Dr. Wells in a quote on page two or three of this thread. It was one of my posts. i reread your posts in the thread. wells brings up some good points, though some of it is just misinterpretation of the theory of evolution. but he centers too much of his evidence against evolution on the fos...
by Zenith
Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:10 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Scientific Method of Evolution
Replies: 97
Views: 21752

As I said this thread was to show how evolution is based on the use of the scientific method to conduct experiments and collect observations. I am not interested in arguing indirectly with someone else. It is quite clear you have made up your mind about what you think of the theory. So I will leave...
by Zenith
Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:31 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: A simple explanation why there is no "Intelligent Desig
Replies: 87
Views: 21294

Re: A simple explanation why there is no "Intelligent D

It must therefore follow that an intelligent designer is a naturally occurring entity. But that tells us that anything designed by an intelligent designer is ultimately also naturally occurring, as it originally can be seen to have got started with the natural occurence of the intelligent designer....
by Zenith
Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:46 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Scientific Method of Evolution
Replies: 97
Views: 21752

"everything must be caused by a physical force because if it isn't, it doesn't affect our universe. if it affects our universe, then it creates evidence of itself in the universe that we are able to observe. we might not be advanced enough to see all of it, but we are still able to become adva...
by Zenith
Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Scientific Method of Evolution
Replies: 97
Views: 21752

Hey, thanks for the long reply. i'm sorry about the misinterpretation. those sciences don't use as much experimentation in the traditional sense. but they still rely on experimentation just as much, only that it is a different kind. developing mathematical equations is as much experimentation as gr...
by Zenith
Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:37 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Scientific Method of Evolution
Replies: 97
Views: 21752

If this is not the result of genetic limits, what is it the result of? Even though evolution supposedly manifests at the macroscopic level, the variation has to happen at the molecular level. Also, why is evolution irreversible? No mammal has ever evolved into a reptile, or reptile to amphibian etc...