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by Pierson5
Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 524244

Re: Shroud of Turin

Hey Bibby, ... it would be very interesting to see you "step into the lions den," and see where the debate goes from there. True, you don't learn much with a bunch of fellow travelers as judge and jury cheering on your every statement. I think it would be quite an interesting debate. Bipp...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:45 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

To clarify this point here "researchers have identified certain proteins" that take part in "a three-dimensional coordinate system". We cannot look at one protein and discern the system. This is and will continue to be the problem for the researchers as the researchers themselve...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:27 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Climate Science
Replies: 16
Views: 4812

Re: Climate Science

I'm no meteorologist, but when 97% of the scientific community examines the evidence and agrees that man-made climate change is happening, I'm going to go with them on this one. If 97% of the oncological community said something was causing cancer, I think we'd listen to them So if 97% of theologia...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:53 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 524244

Re: Shroud of Turin

Hey Bibby, Thanks for the other citations. It's an interesting point of view. I was wondering if you happen to peruse other forums regarding the shroud? This one, for example, has almost 100,000 views and about 2500 comments. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=226761 I was reading through it a...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:30 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Climate Science
Replies: 16
Views: 4812

Re: Climate Science

//i.imgur.com/PwbNW.jpg //content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2010/06/scientists-overwhelmingly-believe-in-man-made-climate-change/1 I'm no meteorologist, but when 97% of the scientific community examines the evidence and agrees that man-made climate change is happening, I'm going to ...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:25 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

KBCid, It seems from your last reply, we keep repeating many of the same arguments. I think it would be nice if we could find some common ground. The system you are referring too is rather broad. I looked over the previous citation you gave at the beginning of this thread:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...
by Pierson5
Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:42 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

KBCid, It seems from your last reply, we keep repeating many of the same arguments. I think it would be nice if we could find some common ground. The system you are referring too is rather broad. I looked over the previous citation you gave at the beginning of this thread: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.go...
by Pierson5
Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:35 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

I'm not arguing that the system isn't there. I'm arguing that you are jumping to a conclusion when we are still left with a mystery. Just as Behe had his flagellum. No one was arguing that the flagellum wasn't there, or that it didn't express machine-like characteristics. Even if we didn't know how...
by Pierson5
Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:22 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

This is exactly the issue I have with your "evidence." You are taking a small, specific aspect of biology not completely understood and claiming it as evidence for design. ...The evidence is plainly showing that there is a system of spatiotemporal positional control functioning within all...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:56 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

I have referenced a ton of papers that show a huge variety of the aspects of the system which I am discussing. As others have pointed out, the papers you cited are either of people building things or of authors whose conclusion is completely different than the one you are suggesting. Do you underst...
by Pierson5
Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 524244

Re: Shroud of Turin

You mean the email correspondence between antonacci and rogers? I might still have the link somewhere pierson, as its a very old bookmark and I do clean my bookmarks out every 3 to 6 months for personal reasons.Id have to go back and check it out .meanwhile here is a good critique of antonaccis cri...
by Pierson5
Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:24 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 524244

Re: Shroud of Turin

I'm still looking through the pdf you linked in the previous post, but did you happen to have the citation for this? Using antonacci's work which was debunked easily through his email correspondences with rogers shows that Antonacci isnt qualified as a chemist or textile expert. As far as Mechthild ...
by Pierson5
Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:21 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Science is based on?
Replies: 63
Views: 14112

Re: Science is based on?

Confirmation bias is just hard at work over there. That's what I call, the pot calling the kettle black. I've seen a couple of threads where Jac and K mopped the floor (for lack of a better descirption) with a coupl eof our resident atheists. They seem totally unaware that it even happened, and con...
by Pierson5
Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:57 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Shroud of Turin
Replies: 1731
Views: 524244

Re: Shroud of Turin

I know that you havent looked at both sides, but thats what im here for buddy ;) . My guess is that your running out of pseudo-skeptical evidence against the shroud, but then again your an atheist, and you dont have much choice other then to keep denying the shroud's authenticity in front of the mo...
by Pierson5
Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution and Intelligent Design
Replies: 429
Views: 112639

Re: Evolution and Intelligent Design

Also, be careful using statements like "creationist side." The discovery institute tries to be as coy as they can about keeping the identity of the designer a mystery . As I have stated before, there is room for intelligent cause. You CAN test for these things, the problem is with the lac...