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by DivineRageFromSpace
Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:21 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

However, I've never been convinced that any type of fantasy, especially when it is in the realm of fiction, is bad. Let's take sexual predators. How many sexual predators do you think started without first creating a fantasy world in which they acted out their behaviors? Also, do you think Hitler w...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:44 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

I was brought up with violent cartoons, love kung fu flicks and samurai blood baths, have been doing MA since I was 9 ( I'm gonna be 43 this year), violence has been a part of my life since I was a kid ( worked as a doorman, served as a peackeeper) and I am not a violent person, dislike violence an...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:27 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

I said the moral order is played out in society, and that just in virtue of what morality is. That doesn't mean that society determines morality. It just means that where there is no society, there is no such thing as morality (sort of like if there is no universe, there is such thing as physics). ...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:06 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

There is indeed a difference. For one, sex can be used for many things, fun, torture(rape), fetish (BDSM), love, but in all of this the designed function of sex remains the same, and that Jac pointed out correctly, is to reproduce. You can use the baseball bat to drive a nail in the wood, or hit so...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:40 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Against Platonism
Replies: 17
Views: 6596

Re: Against Platonism

Jac3510 wrote:. . . This leads to a rather famous problem called Russell's Paradox.
I did some extensive Googling on Russell's Paradox and was interested enough to invest several hours reading up on it. Glad you brought it up. C:
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:25 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

No, cuz and children and sterile persons have in common that they're both unable to sexually reproduce this is beyond the argument, this is introducing something in the argument which the statement is not even aimed at. There is a big difference. There are tons of non-common things between children...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:07 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

Lol. divine...dont make wrong jumps. :) In your own words, now you are not attacking the argument but the principle behind it. Suddenly children and sterile persons are equal. If you ask Jac to stick to the rules, so should you. ;) Nice try, Neo, but I was attacking his argument. His argument was t...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:38 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

With all this in mind, revisit the notion of fantasizing about children. Now, it is evident that the biological purpose of sex is reproduction. There may be other benefits that come with it (e.g., it's fun), but what it is for is reproduction. So it's immoral for me to have sex with a sterile perso...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:32 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

With regard to your example of homosexuality, I would emphasize that I am appealing to intrinsic order, not to imposed order. The former is a natural constituency of the thing itself; the latter is a psychological property applied to the thing by the human mind and not really a part of the thing it...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:20 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

I am not legally equating fantasising with the act of doing it, so no it would not be reasonable to preemptive arresting. I am saying that fantasising can be a precursor to committing the act and I think it is a dangerous road to go down for yourself and possibly others. . . . I am not saying all p...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:56 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

A system left to itself tends towards disorder, according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics; and if such a system tends towards disorder, it will be more disorderly in the future. Therefore what is now considered to be the "natural order" will not be the "natural order" in the...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:20 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

There might be other factors at play other than porn legalisation like social, religious, education and even environmental. The fact remains that the majority of offenders fantasise before their action. Dan So if someone is fantasizing about having sex with a child, would it be reasonable, then, to...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:06 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

Something is wrong (morally speaking) if it deviates from the moral order of the universe . Notice that I am appealing to something outside of the mind here. I am presuming that there is an order to the universe. There is obviously a physical order. I am suggesting that just as there is a physical ...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:04 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Where do you guys stand?
Replies: 81
Views: 27966

Re: Where do you guys stand?

Also: Since our fantasies are fictitious and only have representations of others at best, is it morally acceptable by Christian standards for a fantasy to involve a member of the same sex, a very young child, etc.? After all, the fantasy is only imagined and will not necessarily be acted upon, so m...
by DivineRageFromSpace
Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:49 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Against Platonism
Replies: 17
Views: 6596

Re: Against Platonism

Is it possible for God Himself be considered a property? If God were , somehow, the uncreated property "able to create", then He wouldn't have had to create "able to create" or "able to create able to create"; and it also wouldn't be necessary to attribute any propertie...