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by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:13 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

God has the power to stop it. He also has the omniscience, omnipresence, and omnipotence to know the end of all things, and therefore to allow terrible things to happen in creation, even if temporal, fallible, ignorant beings can't grasp the why. Could suffering be worse? I would say, yes. In fact,...
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:43 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

I believe that God should end suffering and evil by any means necessary even if it means wiping every human being from the face of the Earth. Now you seem to have a problem with me using the word allow. Once again, either God has the power to end/prevent suffering and evil and he doesnt which means ...
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:27 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

Either God has the power to stop it and doesnt, thereby allowing it to occur or he doesnt have the power to stop it. Are you saying God doesnt have the power to stop it. Or are you saying that God is fine with children starving to death if we dont do anything about it (which is the same thing as all...
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:20 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

You still havent answered the question. Why does God allow thousands of children to starve to death every year? God provides and humans take it from children so thats just too bad; is thats what youre saying? Why does a God that allows suffering deserve to be praised and worshiped?
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:43 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

That still doesnt explain why God "provides" what birds and grass need but doesnt "provide" what starving children need. Still doesnt answer why God allows thousands of children to starve to death every year.
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:38 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

I dont undestand your question
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:28 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

The problem is that the starvation problem makes sense from a Godless perspective but makes absolutely no sense from a theistic perspective where God is supposedly watching over us, loving us and providing for us, especially when Jesus himself said that our basic necessities would be provided for: T...
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:10 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

Hi, Magsolo, and thank you for sharing your thoughts,. I will try to respond later as I am pretty short on time here but what you wrote in the last couple of posts reminded me of a saying I read somewhere, you may Google it up but I think it went like "Sometimes I would like to ask God why he ...
by MAGSolo
Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:59 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

Everything you listed is evil created by man, we made this mess and we can fix it. Is that not the state we were allegedly created in? We could not do evil if it we hadnt been created with the capacity to do so. We said we could do it on our own, we bought evil into this world. Where exactly did we...
by MAGSolo
Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:28 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

I think this is exactly the type of world you would see if there is a God who was rejected by his own creation, a creation that said I can do it my own way, who said I don't need God. God said fine have it your way, if you don't need me I shall remove my presence and left us to our own devices, thi...
by MAGSolo
Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:58 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

Im not outraged at all. On the contrary I understand that things that occur in the picture above should be expected as a result of living in a Godless world. Stuff like this happens precisely because there is no supernatural, all powerful, loving, good entity watching over us and loving us. God cann...
by MAGSolo
Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:17 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

You said Jesus Christ. I then asked have you ever seen Jesus Christ? And I asked you IF my personal opinion would count as proof, well? would it? You seem to be using the bible to prove, in your view, that God doesn't love Us. Only right that I use the bible, the very method you are using, to show ...
by MAGSolo
Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:15 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

You said Jesus Christ. I then asked have you ever seen Jesus Christ?
by MAGSolo
Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:09 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

And how is it evident that God loves us? Jesus Christ. If that isn't good enough (though for a Christian it is more than enough) and we take the view that God DOES exist and that God is GOD. The simple fact that God still sustains US ( the universe in whole and humans in particular) and has not &qu...
by MAGSolo
Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:07 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Several questions concerning the fall and evil
Replies: 307
Views: 56639

Re: Several questions concerning the fall and evil

Rick D. The text says: I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception. In pain thou shalt bring forth children. If he is telling her that she shall bring forth children in pain, that doesnt sound like the pain was already there. It seems pretty clear that he is saying that because you have d...