Evidence for God from Science

Yes but "never" is a modifier of the word "known" which is past tense. So it only refers to eternal past - not eternal future. And you are correct that it does not mention temporal in the verse. But to get a correct understanding, you must read it in context of the surrounding sc...

Jac I also agree iwth Canuck: That was great. I know being analytical as most computer programmers are, I always tend to try to solve problems, when really there is no solution but to endure the suffering and come out on the other side hopefully better for it. But trying to explain this to the perso...

Hopefully this movie will prompt more discussion from people that in the past would not have been open to discussing it, and in the process will actually come to know the true Gospel. Rom 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called accord...

August, The words "OBJECTIVE" and "SUBJECTIVE" in John's explanation of his position is kind of confusing me. Here are their definitions: ob·jec·tive ( P ) Pronunciation Key (b-jktv) adj. Of or having to do with a material object. Having actual existence or reality. Uninfluenced ...

Jac, that was fantastic!!!!!

so led,

Baptism, is one of the first steps in the growth of a Christian. (ie. becoming a disciple)

Here is an interesting verse that may ( :roll: doubtful :roll: ) clear up things. 2 Chron 7:14 Sounds to me based on this passage that these people had a choice in whether they were saved or not. Read the whole chapter I do not believe I have not taken it out of context. Although I believe salvation...

Jac, Let me see if I understand what you are saying. It sounds like something interesting thought to do more research on. I may have missed something cause I did not read everything through the whole thread. I have also done some interpolation based on other verses. 1. That the term "elect"...

Is there a good on-line source that I can go to determine things like tense, mood, voice, number, gender or certain greek words or phrases?

Thank you,

This is more along the lines of what I thought "middle voice" was - although definitely more complex than I had first imagined.

Yes Jac, Thats where I was planning on going next, that "the world" can actually refer to "non christians", especially in the verses that John uses in Revelation. But I won't bother explaining more, you did a sufficient job. But I am anxious to hear what Dr. Arnett has to say abo...

I hear differing ideas on the meaning of middle voice. I thought I knew, then one of my pastor friends explained it to me in a way that mostly confused me. I wont tell what he said, I just want to hear what ya'll have to say. :? Is there a quintessential source of Greek that pretty much all people a...

PL, In another thread you referenced a link in an explanation of this verse. Here is paragraph from it: Concerning the possible usage of kosmos to mean all mankind without exception in the redemptive context of I John 2:2, let the reader observe that kosmos is used differently at least 21 out of 23 ...

I think I may have gotten off of the original subject: Are those that fall from faith still saved. I think a truly saved person is always saved. Heb 6:4-9 6:4 The word (once) comes from a Greek word meaning “once-for-all” and describes for us the one-time birth of the salvation experience (See John...

PL , The link on foreknowledge is interesting. but it is only making statements of belief of what foreknowledge is referring to persons verses events. But even if what he is saying is true, it is irrelevant to whether he knows who will choose or who wont. If he knows you, of course you will have cho...

Some of my Calvinist friends use Romans 8:29 to support their belief that we were predestined unto salvation. But if you do a word search on conform you only find the following 3 verses: Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he m...