Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
David and Johnathan in Samuel
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Jonouchi Katsuya
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David and Johnathan in Samuel
Opinions?
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
Hi I am a Buddhist and I seek enlightenment. I do not know everything. I do not pretend to know everything. I desire strongly to discuss the Bible as you see it. Please correct me when I get something wrong.
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Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Nope, they were friends, as we can see by this description: "better than the love of woman" which seems to say "better than romantic love". Also, there are no references to them being in love. Just that their relationship was very strong.Jonouchi Katsuya wrote:Opinions?
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
The first step to learning is to admit that you don't know.
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Jonouchi Katsuya
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Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Other people interpret it differently, but that shouldn't surprise you.SnowDrops wrote:Nope, they were friends, as we can see by this description: "better than the love of woman" which seems to say "better than romantic love". Also, there are no references to them being in love. Just that their relationship was very strong.Jonouchi Katsuya wrote:Opinions?
Just platonic? Or is it romantic?
It seriously made me cry the first time I read it... the beauty of their relationship whatever level it may be at... it still had some of the most beautiful quotes.
Thank you for your opinion on this matter.
Hi I am a Buddhist and I seek enlightenment. I do not know everything. I do not pretend to know everything. I desire strongly to discuss the Bible as you see it. Please correct me when I get something wrong.
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Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Given the nature of Song of Solomon, it seems the God is quite willing to be explicit in sexual love and approving of the sexual love between a man and wife.
I think we need to be careful to
1) read into the text, especially with modern views
2) look into the text what we perhaps want it to mean.
The text only specifies friendship and the closeness of the relationship, it doesn't indicate whatsoever a physical nature to the relationship. Ho unfortunate that this is deemed potentially risque, I think it is valuable to see the friendships that can take place without genders. Ruth and Naomi, Jonathon and David, friendships are meant to encourage, support, and show great intimacy. But unfortunately intimacy is equated with sexual relationships.
I think we need to be careful to
1) read into the text, especially with modern views
2) look into the text what we perhaps want it to mean.
The text only specifies friendship and the closeness of the relationship, it doesn't indicate whatsoever a physical nature to the relationship. Ho unfortunate that this is deemed potentially risque, I think it is valuable to see the friendships that can take place without genders. Ruth and Naomi, Jonathon and David, friendships are meant to encourage, support, and show great intimacy. But unfortunately intimacy is equated with sexual relationships.
"And we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Jesus Christ"
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Re: David and Johnathan in Samuel
Well, let's see, scripture tells us that David had eight wives and (at least) ten concubines. That sounds pretty heterosexual to me!