What too many Christians do

ultimate777 · Post by **ultimate777** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:13 am

I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?

neo-x · Post by **neo-x** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:05 am

yes, most Christians refuse to deal with tough questions. But I think most of the time (not all the time), the questions themselves are quite ridiculous, petty, fallacious as well.

CeT-To · Post by **CeT-To** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:08 am

ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?

I don't understand your question about the mentally disabled ( please let us call them that and not retards since it's used in a derogatory manner nowadays).

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:31 am

CeT-To wrote:
ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?
I don't understand your question about the mentally disabled ( please let us call them that and not retards since it's used in a derogatory manner nowadays).

retard(re·tard)
Syllabification:OnOff

verb
Pronunciation:/riˈtärd/
[with object]
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment:
his progress was retarded by his limp

DannyM · Post by **DannyM** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:38 am

ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?

I'd tone down the provocative language if I were you, ultimate777, and remember where you are...

CeT-To · Post by **CeT-To** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:40 am

RickD wrote:
CeT-To wrote:
ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?
I don't understand your question about the mentally disabled ( please let us call them that and not retards since it's used in a derogatory manner nowadays).
retard(re·tard)
Syllabification:OnOff

verb
Pronunciation:/riˈtärd/
[with object]
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment:
his progress was retarded by his limp

Lol i know but read what i said in brackets though. Anyway this is besides the point - do you understand what he is asking.

B. W. · Post by **B. W.** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:32 am

ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?

Do you???

ultimate777 wrote:....As you probably can tell I am more self-centered than most people and more than most want to do things for my own benefit with maybe too little concern for other factors, even regarding my thoughts on religion. Would Jesus accept me if that never changed?

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RickD · Post by **RickD** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:46 am

CeT-To wrote:
RickD wrote:
CeT-To wrote:
ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?
I don't understand your question about the mentally disabled ( please let us call them that and not retards since it's used in a derogatory manner nowadays).
retard(re·tard)
Syllabification:OnOff

verb
Pronunciation:/riˈtärd/
[with object]
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment:
his progress was retarded by his limp
Lol i know but read what i said in brackets though. Anyway this is besides the point - do you understand what he is asking.

Yes, I see what he's saying. It's just that he's saying it in an offensive kind of way, IMO. Let's look at what he's saying, not how he's saying it, to see if it's valid.

I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies.

Some Christians may seem to refuse to deal with tough questions, because they either 1) don't honestly know the answer or
2) they feel threatened by the question, as in, they feel like they are supposed to know the answer, but if they admit they don't, then the unbeliever will think their faith in Christ is stupid, or invalid.

IMHO either retards the cause of Christ.

Nothing we do "retards" the cause of Christ. That's like saying an omnipotent God's plans are contingent on us. That would mean He's not omnipotent.

Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?

It's not that they don't have brains. Christians, despite what some Christians say, don't have all the answers. Some Christians aren't secure enough in the faith. Some believe it is their duty to "defend" God, whenever someone insults Him. Our "duty" is to love God, and people, with the love of God manifested in our lives, by the Holy Spirit in us. Our duty isn't to jump down someone's throat every time they insult God.

jlay · Post by **jlay** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:38 am

Offensive?

Come on guys, let's put on our big boy britches.

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 8:48 am

jlay wrote:Offensive?

Come on guys, let's put on our big boy britches.

jlay, didn't you see the obvious pun, when 777 used the word "retards", when referring to Christians? That he used "retards" instead of any other word, can be offensive, in its meaning.

CeT-To · Post by **CeT-To** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:10 am

RickD wrote:
CeT-To wrote:
RickD wrote:
CeT-To wrote:
ultimate777 wrote:I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?
I don't understand your question about the mentally disabled ( please let us call them that and not retards since it's used in a derogatory manner nowadays).
retard(re·tard)
Syllabification:OnOff

verb
Pronunciation:/riˈtärd/
[with object]
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment:
his progress was retarded by his limp
Lol i know but read what i said in brackets though. Anyway this is besides the point - do you understand what he is asking.
Yes, I see what he's saying. It's just that he's saying it in an offensive kind of way, IMO. Let's look at what he's saying, not how he's saying it, to see if it's valid.
I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies.
Some Christians may seem to refuse to deal with tough questions, because they either 1) don't honestly know the answer or
2) they feel threatened by the question, as in, they feel like they are supposed to know the answer, but if they admit they don't, then the unbeliever will think their faith in Christ is stupid, or invalid.
IMHO either retards the cause of Christ.
Nothing we do "retards" the cause of Christ. That's like saying an omnipotent God's plans are contingent on us. That would mean He's not omnipotent.
Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?
It's not that they don't have brains. Christians, despite what some Christians say, don't have all the answers. Some Christians aren't secure enough in the faith. Some believe it is their duty to "defend" God, whenever someone insults Him. Our "duty" is to love God, and people, with the love of God manifested in our lives, by the Holy Spirit in us. Our duty isn't to jump down someone's throat every time they insult God.

LOL thanx Rick hahah i was totally off on the retard issue - i thought it had something to do with mentally ill people, i think the confusion came from the fact that i wasn't familiar with the way the word was used. I feel a bit silly now tho and embarrassed

hahaha

ultimate777 · Post by **ultimate777** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:34 am

Neo, you just proved my point.

jlay · Post by **jlay** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:40 am

The way he used retards was not in the least offensive too me. For pete's sake, even a definition was provided later in the thread. this is a mole hill, not a mountain.

IMHO either retards the cause of Christ

Is 777 not a Christian?

ultimate777 · Post by **ultimate777** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:50 am

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by DannyM on Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:38 am

ultimate777 wrote:
I think too many (but by no means all) Christians either refuse to deal with tough questions or try to side track them with platitudes and irrelevencies. IMHO either retards the cause of Christ. Don't they still have the brains that God gave them?

I'd tone down the provocative language if I were you, ultimate777, and remember where you are...

DannyM, I am trying to make Christians use their minds better in serving God. There is a pattern in the way too many are failing.

RickD · Post by **RickD** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:14 am

jlay wrote:The way he used retards was not in the least offensive too me. For pete's sake, even a definition was provided later in the thread. this is a mole hill, not a mountain.
IMHO either retards the cause of Christ
Is 777 not a Christian?

Perhaps "offensive" was harsh, perhaps not. If "retards" was an intended pun, then it was offensive, IMO.
Is 777 not a Christian? I don't know. Why don't you ask him if he is? He's listed as a Christian, in his profile. But, we know profiles can be misleading. Your profile says you're a young earth creationist. We all know you've abandoned that sinking ship a while ago.

I hope you put your big boy britches on when you read that.