Former Global Warming Skeptic changes Mind

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... tml?sub=AR

This is significant. The money that funded this study for the physisist who did the research came from the Koch brothers who are the primary funders of what is now the Tea Party Movement.
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FYI,

From the article:
One-quarter of the $600,000 to do the research came from the Charles Koch Foundation
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In the interest of fairness:

Scientist who said climate change sceptics had been proved wrong accused of hiding truth by colleague

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... eague.html
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This is so meaningless, I don't understand why it's news. There's no question the global temperature is rising (which he claims in his study), but what are the reasons behind this rise is still unclear (which he does NOT address in his study). In other words, he didn't say anything we don't already know.
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Byblos wrote:This is so meaningless, I don't understand why it's news. There's no question the global temperature is rising (which he claims in his study), but what are the reasons behind this rise is still unclear (which he does NOT address in his study). In other words, he didn't say anything we don't already know.
Indeed, and look at the article's heading:

Skeptic’s own study finds climate change real, but says scientists should be more critical

Who ever said climate change was not real? This reminds me of being told that I was a "climate denier". How on earth does one deny there is a climate, and change within this climate? This is the language of propaganda.
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Got into a small debate with a guy at work about the topic. He said "You know, there's tons of peer-reviewed stuff saying this stuff is real." It took a bit to convince him I agreed with him about Earth's warming temperatures! I don't think I ever had any doubt that the Earth's climate was changing in that direction.

The argument stopped when I said "I don't think we have enough evidence to say man is responsible". I still think that's the case. For one thing, it's God's Earth and nothing will happen without his permission. Second, 500 years ago, we were in a miniature ice age... parts of Siberia before that were suitable for farming! I think we are simply in the midst of an extremely common climate cycle.

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Yes, indeed. If you accept an Old-Earth worldview, then certainly you must know that during the Mesozoic Era (I.E. the time of the dinosaurs) the average earth's temperature was far higher. North America was just a thin strip of land with a massive "inland sea", and ice caps were far more rare. And we make all this fuss coming out of a cool period, the only hard evidence of temperature change being a trend over a couple decades (not very telling in a cycle that takes thousands of years to transpire).
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