Another good reason to say no to this state. Again, no one has control over these extremist who's only mission in life is to destroy Israel..
http://www.saynotoapalestinianstate.com ... xposed.htm
Earlier this month a Palestinian terrorist attempted to attack an Israeli checkpoint. Carrying two pipe bombs, he ran towards the Israeli soldiers, screaming "Allahu Akbar" - "Allah is Greater" - and was shot and killed before he could detonate the bombs.
Yesterday Palestinian Authority Chairman Abbas granted "the relatives of the Shahid" $2000:
"The governor of the Jenin district, Kadura Musa, has awarded a presidential grant to the family of the ShahidShahid, who was recently killed as a Martyr at the Hamra checkpoint by the Israeli occupation forces." (Martyr), Khaldoun Najib Samoudy, during a visit that took place yesterday in the village of Al-Yamoun. The governor noted that the grant is financial aid in the amount of $2000 that the President [Mahmoud Abbas] is awarding to the relatives of the Shahid, who was recently killed as a Martyr."
Abbas: We won't recognize Israel as Jewish state
"Palestinian leader defiant ahead of UN statehood bid, urges international community to back off; 'Don’t order us to recognize Jewish state,' he says. Foreign Minister says world must tell Abbas state cannot come at Israel's expense."
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Say NO to a Palestinian State
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
This is amusing. The Palestinian authority gets most of its funding from the West, from Europe and NZ and Australia and the USA* and Canada...which means that taxpayers' money from these countries goes directly to supporting terrorism against Israel.Gman wrote:Yesterday Palestinian Authority Chairman Abbas granted "the relatives of the Shahid" $2000:"The governor of the Jenin district, Kadura Musa, has awarded a presidential grant to the family of the ShahidShahid, who was recently killed as a Martyr at the Hamra checkpoint by the Israeli occupation forces." (Martyr), Khaldoun Najib Samoudy, during a visit that took place yesterday in the village of Al-Yamoun. The governor noted that the grant is financial aid in the amount of $2000 that the President [Mahmoud Abbas] is awarding to the relatives of the Shahid, who was recently killed as a Martyr."
Perverted. The world is perverted.
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*the USA is by far the biggest single donor. Obamahu akbar!
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
Obamahu akbar! that's hilariousFurstentum Liechtenstein wrote:*the USA is by far the biggest single donor. Obamahu akbar!
.But believe me if it were up to Obama he'd cut off funding entirely to Israel. Thank God for the GOP.
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Very sad... It just goes to show you how easily brainwashed we are...Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
This is amusing. The Palestinian authority gets most of its funding from the West, from Europe and NZ and Australia and the USA* and Canada...which means that taxpayers' money from these countries goes directly to supporting terrorism against Israel.
Perverted. The world is perverted.
FL
*the USA is by far the biggest single donor. Obamahu akbar!
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
Now here is some cool info..
1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Did you know that Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
2. Did you know that Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
3. Did you know that since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
4. Did you know that Arabs have only had control of Israel twice - from 634 until the Crusader invasion in June 1099, and from 1292 until the year 1517 when they were dispelled by the Turks in their conquest.
5. Did you know that for over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Did you know that Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. There are vague references to Jerusalem in the Hadiths - stories about Mohammed - that he stopped his night journey (which the Koran explains took place in a dream!) at the "farther mosque" (or "distant place"). Muslims explain that this means "at the edge of the Temple mount", although no direct reference to Jerusalem or the Temple Mount is made.
7. Did you know that King David established the city of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
8. Did you know that Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Some Muslims (i.e. those between Israel and Saudi Arabia) pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.
9. Arab and Jewish Refugees - Did you know that in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.
10. Did you know that the Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. They lost much more posissions than the Arabs who fled from Israel!
11. Did you know that the number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
12. Did you know that Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.
13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict - Did you know that the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
14. Did you know that the P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.
15. Did you know that under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
Source: //www.middleeastfacts.com
1. Nationhood and Jerusalem - Did you know that Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.
2. Did you know that Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.
3. Did you know that since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.
4. Did you know that Arabs have only had control of Israel twice - from 634 until the Crusader invasion in June 1099, and from 1292 until the year 1517 when they were dispelled by the Turks in their conquest.
5. Did you know that for over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.
6. Did you know that Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. There are vague references to Jerusalem in the Hadiths - stories about Mohammed - that he stopped his night journey (which the Koran explains took place in a dream!) at the "farther mosque" (or "distant place"). Muslims explain that this means "at the edge of the Temple mount", although no direct reference to Jerusalem or the Temple Mount is made.
7. Did you know that King David established the city of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.
8. Did you know that Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Some Muslims (i.e. those between Israel and Saudi Arabia) pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.
9. Arab and Jewish Refugees - Did you know that in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.
10. Did you know that the Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. They lost much more posissions than the Arabs who fled from Israel!
11. Did you know that the number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.
12. Did you know that Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.
13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict - Did you know that the Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.
14. Did you know that the P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.
15. Did you know that under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.
Source: //www.middleeastfacts.com
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
Everyone should be acquainted with this website too.. If you want to see antisemitism at it's best... These nuts have only one thing on their minds... Death to Jews..
http://www.pmw.org.il/
http://www.pmw.org.il/
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
gman, would you support Israel in a -pre-emptive attack on iran?
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Don't know if it's the right thing to do... Ultimately Iran will get nukes, nothing is going to stop that... So it's inevitable. Either now or sometime in the future. Dammed if you strike, dammed if you don't. The Iranians would just need someone crazy enough to carry their plans out. There is no stopping that either due to aggressive Muslim programming as outlined in the koran. If the Israels do it, it will stop the oil channels and they will become demonized very quickly by the nations. Israel will be left alone to defend herself.. Only God would be there... A true test.Murray wrote:gman, would you support Israel in a -pre-emptive attack on iran?
Not much stopping it now...
We are at a very critical time in our future. We must pray that all parties come to peace.. And pray for our leaders..I feel sad for the Arabs and Jews..
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
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Are you saying all Palestinians are terrorists?Gman wrote:Another good reason to say no to this state. Again, no one has control over these extremist who's only mission in life is to destroy Israel..
http://www.saynotoapalestinianstate.com ... xposed.htm
Earlier this month a Palestinian terrorist attempted to attack an Israeli checkpoint. Carrying two pipe bombs, he ran towards the Israeli soldiers, screaming "Allahu Akbar" - "Allah is Greater" - and was shot and killed before he could detonate the bombs.
Yesterday Palestinian Authority Chairman Abbas granted "the relatives of the Shahid" $2000:
"The governor of the Jenin district, Kadura Musa, has awarded a presidential grant to the family of the ShahidShahid, who was recently killed as a Martyr at the Hamra checkpoint by the Israeli occupation forces." (Martyr), Khaldoun Najib Samoudy, during a visit that took place yesterday in the village of Al-Yamoun. The governor noted that the grant is financial aid in the amount of $2000 that the President [Mahmoud Abbas] is awarding to the relatives of the Shahid, who was recently killed as a Martyr."
Abbas: We won't recognize Israel as Jewish state
"Palestinian leader defiant ahead of UN statehood bid, urges international community to back off; 'Don’t order us to recognize Jewish state,' he says. Foreign Minister says world must tell Abbas state cannot come at Israel's expense."
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
Absolutely not.... That would be the dumbest thing to ever say. No one has ever said anything like this on this forum. We want what's best for them.Widge wrote: Are you saying all Palestinians are terrorists?
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
So why do some people on here think they do not deserve their own land?Gman wrote:Absolutely not.... That would be the dumbest thing to ever say. No one has ever said anything like this on this forum. We want what's best for them.Widge wrote: Are you saying all Palestinians are terrorists?
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How much more land do the Arabs need? Israels space is only 1/625 the land mass of the Arab world. It's even smaller than New Jersey. Also want about the genocide of the Jews in the Arab lands before Israel became a state? Thousands of Jews lost their homes in the surrounding areas of Israel... On top of that, Israel stated that they wanted the Arabs to become a part of Israel.. They rejected that and only wish to see Israel destroyed...Widge wrote:
So why do some people on here think they do not deserve their own land?
The heart cannot rejoice in what the mind rejects as false - Galileo
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
We learn from history that we do not learn from history - Georg Friedrich Wilhelm Hegel
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is excellent or praiseworthy, think about such things. -Philippians 4:8
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
Hear! Hear! to the motion.
Think of the deep ramifications from decades of child indoctrination.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1 ... nian_child
Think of the deep ramifications from decades of child indoctrination.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1 ... nian_child
Most people are unaware of the extent of Palestinian incitement and exploitation of children simply because journalists and NGOs do not report it…
For decades Palestinian teachers and textbooks have spread hatred of Israel in schools. The Palestinian Education Authority revised their EU funded textbooks after criticism that they delegitimised Israel and demonized Jewish people…
The aid-funded textbooks still poison the minds of Palestinian children against Israel and its Jewish citizens…
Palestinian children attend schools, sporting events and walk down streets named after terrorists including Rafah Hasan Salame and Salah Khalaf, leaders of the terrorist gang that held hostage and murdered 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Munich Olympics…
That Palestinian children force-fed a diet of hatred against Israel and Jews, are ready to embrace martyrdom in the cause of destroying Israel is unsurprising in the face of Palestinian propaganda and incitement…
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That is like saying the English should vacate England and move to France as Europeans have lots of land. That is a none arguement. The Palestinians need a home. Jesus and the Bible talked about Justice as did Amos. God hates our worship when there is no justice. Your arguements go against God and justice.Gman wrote:How much more land do the Arabs need? Israels space is only 1/625 the land mass of the Arab world. It's even smaller than New Jersey. Also want about the genocide of the Jews in the Arab lands before Israel became a state? Thousands of Jews lost their homes in the surrounding areas of Israel... On top of that, Israel stated that they wanted the Arabs to become a part of Israel.. They rejected that and only wish to see Israel destroyed...Widge wrote:
So why do some people on here think they do not deserve their own land?
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Re: Say NO to a Palestinian State
You are nicely forgetting that the palestinians can integrate into Israel but they refuse, the only reason they want a state is so they can continue their attack on Israel. The past speaks for itself, they want to eradicate Israel by any means and that includes appealing to our emotions by saying that they are repressed.
Basic facts are Israel wants peace and integration and to protect their people, most palestinians want to kill Jews and destroy Israel.
How is that justice if you give them the means to do this by giving them an area where they can bomb from at will?
Basic facts are Israel wants peace and integration and to protect their people, most palestinians want to kill Jews and destroy Israel.
How is that justice if you give them the means to do this by giving them an area where they can bomb from at will?
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Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever.Amen.